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| beanflying:
And its usage here has been used by posters on multiple occasions as 'definitive proof' of a negative without evidence because of a random web link or someone wrote it down so it must be true. We don't accept 'free energy' without question because someone rattles off gibberish maths and shows a suspect device so why should we accept non Science here as a 'truth' over what is published and broadly accepted? |
| RAPo:
--- Quote from: beanflying on August 12, 2023, 12:04:22 pm ---And its usage here has been used by posters on multiple occasions as 'definitive proof' of a negative without evidence because of a random web link or someone wrote it down so it must be true. We don't accept 'free energy' without question because someone rattles off gibberish maths and shows a suspect device so why should we accept non Science here as a 'truth' over what is published and broadly accepted? --- End quote --- Because there are more than only arguments. Human behaviour, invested interests, money, common opinion is not always true, silencing unwelcome ideas/facts. |
| beanflying:
Which is why I raised the question of Judith Curry's views a while back. 'silencing unwelcome ideas/facts' is conspiracy 101 for the negative case and what a huge segment of so called News pushes as 'truth' or 'alternate facts'. I have no issue with a debate but it needs to be on Scientific merits and a whole lot less of the :bullshit: |
| RAPo:
--- Quote from: beanflying on August 12, 2023, 12:13:48 pm ---'silencing unwelcome ideas/facts' is conspiracy 101 for the negative case and what a huge segment of so called News pushes as 'truth' or 'alternate facts'. --- End quote --- Nope, for the "positive" case there is a website that shows different. And for the negative case, there is a dutch news site that does not allow allow climate denial within the response section, regardless the arguments. |
| coppice:
--- Quote from: beanflying on August 12, 2023, 12:13:48 pm ---I have no issue with a debate but it needs to be on Scientific merits and a whole lot less of the :bullshit: --- End quote --- Most things that are broadly accepted reality now were once considered BS. How do you move the real from BS to any higher level of "merit" if you suppress things that don't have that merit today? BS is something we should live with, and filter at a personal level, not a societal level. |
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