Author Topic: Hell freezes over... (Read 12202 times)

Mr. Scram · « **Reply #25 on:** April 18, 2018, 01:30:02 pm »

Quote from: bd139 on April 18, 2018, 01:27:39 pm

https://www.qt.io/

Figures, I thought QuickTime didn't make much sense.

Time for caffeine!

bd139 · « **Reply #26 on:** April 18, 2018, 01:32:18 pm »

Caffeine. Brilliant idea!

Electro Detective · « **Reply #27 on:** April 19, 2018, 08:59:56 am »

MicrosLimeux Command Prompt:
"Dude, where do you want to go to today?"

Ummm... $:-\$

"No!"

Karel · « **Reply #28 on:** April 19, 2018, 12:44:27 pm »

Ontopic, do you think that, in the nearby future, the following joke will become reality?

Quote

"What do you anticipate Microsoft will do next?"

...

Microsoft will switch to Linux and keep selling their software on top of Linux. And it will cost the Windows users as much as before.

At the same time will the Linux community get face-stomped by hordes of Windows users, all trying to learn everything there is to learn about Linux and in record-breaking time.

Some long-time Linux supporters will switch to Microsoft in a heart beat like cold-hearted back-stabbers, while others die the slow death of the White Knight in
the most epic drama the Linux community has ever seen, before the Linux community itself disappears and we will all have turned into "the new Windows user".

Once it's all done and over, and Microsoft has taken over Linux with its hordes of Windows users, will you either be the new slave of the Microsoft empire or you will
have found refuge under a tiny bridge, just next to the one where all the FreeBSD trolls live, and where you'll then be telling tales of Linux's past.

nctnico · « **Reply #29 on:** April 19, 2018, 01:08:39 pm »

I think Linus will find a way to set all Microsoft offices on fire before that happens

Joking ofcourse

bd139 · « **Reply #30 on:** April 19, 2018, 01:27:10 pm »

Quote from: Karel on April 19, 2018, 12:44:27 pm

Ontopic, do you think that, in the nearby future, the following joke will become reality?

Already is on the way. We've already got bits of NT in there (compare systemd to windows component designs)

Electro Detective · « **Reply #31 on:** April 20, 2018, 09:38:22 am »

Quote from: nctnico on April 19, 2018, 01:08:39 pm

I think Linus will find a way to set all Microsoft offices on fire before that happens

Joking ofcourse

Someone close please ask the gent nicely to not burn any Office before 2010

Fred27 · « **Reply #32 on:** April 20, 2018, 09:47:21 am »

Has anyone got anything more interesting to add, other than general MS backlash?

The first chip lined up for this looks interesting - the MediaTek MT3620. It's an ARM A7 with dual M4s. No idea about the company but it sounds like a good combo of high level Linux with some real time low level microcontrollers. I know there's the BeagleBone, but those PRUs don't seem easy to work with.

Anyone have any opinion on the hardware or more concrete info they can share?

Distelzombie · « **Reply #33 on:** April 20, 2018, 10:13:21 am »

Quote from: bd139 on April 18, 2018, 01:27:39 pm

https://www.qt.io/

Rotating rubic cubes on a screen while wearing a VR headset? Very task-oriented marketing.

bd139 · « **Reply #34 on:** April 20, 2018, 12:26:45 pm »

Ignore that shit. That’s for the CTOs

Distelzombie · « **Reply #35 on:** April 20, 2018, 04:41:42 pm »

Quote from: bd139 on April 20, 2018, 12:26:45 pm

Ignore that shit. That’s for the CTOs

I love it.
"Why doesn't our computer system look like this? Get them to do it"

bd139 · « **Reply #36 on:** April 20, 2018, 04:46:51 pm »

Yep. Dear CTO. Stop watching Minority Report and go and make tea!

Karel · « **Reply #37 on:** May 08, 2018, 07:41:51 am »

Hell freezes over indeed:

https://www.theregister.co.uk/2018/05/07/microsoft_announces_net_core_30_including_windows_desktop_applications/

Whats next? Edge browser on Mac and Linux?

bitwelder · « **Reply #38 on:** May 08, 2018, 09:04:45 am »

Quote from: Karel on May 08, 2018, 07:41:51 am

Hell freezes over indeed:

https://www.theregister.co.uk/2018/05/07/microsoft_announces_net_core_30_including_windows_desktop_applications/

Whats next? Edge browser on Mac and Linux?

One step at the time, but... yeah
https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/microsoft-edge-mobile

Mr. Scram · « **Reply #39 on:** May 08, 2018, 09:07:02 am »

Quote from: Karel on May 08, 2018, 07:41:51 am

Hell freezes over indeed:

https://www.theregister.co.uk/2018/05/07/microsoft_announces_net_core_30_including_windows_desktop_applications/

Whats next? Edge browser on Mac and Linux?

They can stick Edge in a very secure and warm place.

Electro Detective · « **Reply #40 on:** May 08, 2018, 10:03:59 am »

Quote from: Mr. Scram on May 08, 2018, 09:07:02 am

Quote from: Karel on May 08, 2018, 07:41:51 am
Hell freezes over indeed:

https://www.theregister.co.uk/2018/05/07/microsoft_announces_net_core_30_including_windows_desktop_applications/

Whats next? Edge browser on Mac and Linux?

They can stick Edge in a very secure and warm place.

Sorry, full house, IE secured all the floor space a while back,

please find alternative storage facilities

jmelson · « **Reply #41 on:** May 08, 2018, 06:53:18 pm »

Quote from: Fred27 on April 20, 2018, 09:47:21 am

No idea about the company but it sounds like a good combo of high level Linux with some real time low level microcontrollers. I know there's the BeagleBone, but those PRUs don't seem easy to work with.

Use the Machinekit install (now mainline available) and it is pretty easy to set up and use (as long as you don't mind a little assembler programming.) 5 ns instruction cycle and direct access to I/O! Wow, really cool!

Jon

Karel · « **Reply #42 on:** May 08, 2018, 07:48:26 pm »

Quote

Microsoft: Our most popular server product of all time runs on Linux

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2018/05/08/microsoft_linux_sql_server/

Karel · « **Reply #43 on:** May 09, 2018, 09:24:51 am »

"Introducing extended line endings support in Notepad"

https://blogs.msdn.microsoft.com/commandline/2018/05/08/extended-eol-in-notepad/

After how many years?

Fred27 · « **Reply #44 on:** May 09, 2018, 10:33:06 am »

The first MT3620 Azure Sphere dev boards are available for pre-order. They seem quite expensive for what they are.
https://www.seeedstudio.com/productDetail/3052

Still no info on whether those M3 cores are easily user programmable.

tggzzz · « **Reply #45 on:** May 09, 2018, 10:45:19 am »

Quote from: Fred27 on May 09, 2018, 10:33:06 am

The first MT3620 Azure Sphere dev boards are available for pre-order. They seem quite expensive for what they are.
https://www.seeedstudio.com/productDetail/3052

Still no info on whether those M3 cores are easily user programmable.

The hardware, as you imply, is the easy part. Such devices normally fail due to poor programming environments and poor inter-processor communication software mechanisms.

The only one that has Got That Right is the XMOS xCORE processors, programmed in xC (i.e. Hoare's CSP/Occam), with C/C++ as an escape route.

Fred27 · « **Reply #46 on:** May 10, 2018, 08:07:22 pm »

Some more info including a demo of how to code on the device. (Skip to about 45 minutes for code.)

If you can't be bothered watching the video, some of the interesting stuff it shows:

coding in C which I assumed was running on one of the Cortex-M4F cores, but apparently was on the Cortex-A7
the usual Visual Studio deployment and debugging experience
OTA update of configuration and device code via Azure

In the Q&A at the end it was stated that the demo C code was running on the A7 core. Targeting the M4Fs is apparently coming later. There was no interaction with Linux shown. Perhaps this OS only accessible by the device manufacturer? Maybe this is less like a Pi / Beaglebone equivalent than I thought.

metrologist · « **Reply #47 on:** May 10, 2018, 08:58:05 pm »

Quote from: Karel on May 09, 2018, 09:24:51 am

"Introducing extended line endings support in Notepad"

https://blogs.msdn.microsoft.com/commandline/2018/05/08/extended-eol-in-notepad/

After how many years?

OMG

is it really true? Will I need to install the April Win10 update? That would suck because I just got my HDD filled up enough to still let the OS run, but not enough room to install any more updates, and that module crashes every boot WoHoo! I was enjoying that...

nctnico · « **Reply #48 on:** May 11, 2018, 07:24:28 pm »

Quote from: Karel on May 09, 2018, 09:24:51 am

"Introducing extended line endings support in Notepad"

https://blogs.msdn.microsoft.com/commandline/2018/05/08/extended-eol-in-notepad/

After how many years?

You can express that in centuries! MSDOS exists for nearly half a century so there you go.

Karel · « **Reply #49 on:** July 25, 2018, 08:20:01 am »

And the next step...

https://www.techrepublic.com/article/microsofts-linux-love-in-continues-as-powershell-core-comes-to-ubuntu-snap-store/

What will follow?


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