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Offline Ampera

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Re: Hello, I'm Konrad.
« Reply #25 on: February 05, 2015, 02:25:53 am »
 Even still. This is what I have. I have no money to get a new one. So until it craps out I got no choice
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Re: Hello, I'm Konrad.
« Reply #26 on: February 05, 2015, 03:12:34 am »
Even still. This is what I have. I have no money to get a new one. So until it craps out I got no choice
Think about it. If your cracker blows up and takes other components such as CPU, GPU, mobo, HDD with it into the grave, what will you do? If that happens, you will have to buy more than just a PSU to get a working PC again. Do you want to risk that?

Just a random pick (by no means a strong recommendation): A SeaSonic S12II 620 PSU goes for USD 65 at Newegg.
What would the cost be if you just replace the PSU now?
What would the cost be if you would need to replace a blown PSU and a fried hard disk? (let's cross fingers that the GTX970 remains unaffected)
Compare the numbers...

Also, look around in the interwebs. You won't find any reviews about your PSU. Nada, zilch. How can you have any kind of confidence in this thing?

And just for keeping the spirits high  >:D
Here is a review about Apevia's Warlock series. While it is not the same series as your PSU, it shines a not-so-pretty light on Apevia. From page 2:
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I must confess that after the first few reviews I did with my revised hot box, which uses convective and forced air heating from the SunMoon, I tweaked it just a bit so it wouldn't quite get as hot anymore. It didn't matter for the Warlock Power. Again, it did well up until test four. And then it failed test five. Repeatedly. [...]

And the strange thing was, every time the unit did this, I was able to shut down and restart the unit in test four and it would work perfectly until I hit test five again. I tried four times to get the unit to complete test five, and it failed every single time. At no time did the protection circuitry step in and shut the unit down, which is inexcusable for me. Especially since exhaust temps went past 72 degrees the moment test five started. The unit brags about having overtemp protection, but I'll be darned if I ever saw it work. At any rate, overtemp protection is the least of my worries now, what with test CL1 giving me new records of suck on the 3.3V and 5V readings. Forget about overtemp, where's the overcurrent protection in all this?

Seriously, get yourself a decent PSU. 60..70 dollars should not break the bank. After all, you have proven to have enough financial prowess by buying a GTX 970, ehh ;)


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Re: Hello, I'm Konrad.
« Reply #27 on: February 05, 2015, 03:47:21 am »
I can't. No money. No means to get any. Not enough for anything better then what I got. I can't replace it, and I can't do anything about it.

I am sticking with it even still. I have trust in this power supply, and I have used it before with great results. I am so aware I could get a 'told you so' and 'in your face' about this, but I can't change it even still. Trust me if I could have bought a 1000 watt EVGA supply with modular connectors, and a diamond encrusted platinum aircraft carrier, I would, but I had 100 bucks at the time, and I needed a new PSU and a new case.
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Re: Hello, I'm Konrad.
« Reply #28 on: February 05, 2015, 04:04:29 am »
I can't. No money. No means to get any. Not enough for anything better then what I got. I can't replace it, and I can't do anything about it.

I am sticking with it even still. I have trust in this power supply, and I have used it before with great results. I am so aware I could get a 'told you so' and 'in your face' about this, but I can't change it even still. Trust me if I could have bought a 1000 watt EVGA supply with modular connectors, and a diamond encrusted platinum aircraft carrier, I would, but I had 100 bucks at the time, and I needed a new PSU and a new case.

Well, in that case i seriously suggest to remove the GTX970 from your PC. This should be the most expensive component (about 3x the value of the CPU or mobo, i guess). Keep regular backups on an external HDD (which you would do anyway, i guess).
This should (A) limit the possible (financial) damage in the worst case scenario while allowing you to work with that machine, and (B) reduce the load for the PSU and therefore keep the system safer. Yepp, sorry, no games except Minesweeper and Spider Solitaire.

Nobody is asking you to shell out 100 bucks. Decent models you can get for about USD 60...70 (Even with overclocking in mind, a decent 600W PSU should do.). It should be possible to save that kind of money for a proper PSU in a reasonable time frame.
If you eventually saved enough money to get a decent PSU, the GTX970 can be put back into the system.

In a PC there is only one component that has the potential to kill most, if not all other components in the system. It's the PSU.
If a CPU fails, only the CPU fails. If a HDD fails, only the HDD fails. If the GPU fails, only the GPU fails.
But if the PSU fails, other thing can fail as well.

Anyway, in the end it is your decision...
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Re: Hello, I'm Konrad.
« Reply #29 on: February 05, 2015, 04:39:36 am »
I will keep note of strange events and act accordingly. Removal of the 970 isn't possible. It's the most expensive, but most important part of the whole rig and several things depend on it. the 8000 graphics aren't enough, and don't have the ability to work. As I said I have faith and trust in the PSU. I know it works fine despide Apevia being a bad company. I have had these before in other rigs and they worked perfectly fine.

Thanks for your suggestions, but they are impossible for me to do. Replacing or removing is out of the question. It's like removing the alternator and steering wheel from your day to day car. It just can't be done.

I have done tests on it, and everything checked out fine. The caps are good, and everything is proper. And if it does fail, I'll sent it in for a Mailbag, so maybe Dave (I hope that's his name) can check it out.

Also if this does fail I TECHNICALLY have a replacement PSU. The reason I say technically is because it's lower wattage, only has 4 molex and 4 sata (no video connectors) and only 2 rails. Barely enough to do anything with.

Meanwhile, hello!
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