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| TerraHertz:
--- Quote from: amyk on June 06, 2020, 10:35:16 pm ---I already tried making a font in my previous post; looks like the 5 is almost the same without the serif at the top, but that should be easy to fix. :) --- End quote --- That's very close, thanks. But does need fine tuning. several of the digits are too wide, and the 5 doesn't match the correct 5 from the gauge image TwoFlower found. I think I can fix it up myself. My current photoshop file is here: http://everist.org/pics/gauge/gauge_overlay_7.psd 10MB Photoshop 5.5 That includes layers with the complete 0-9 sample font (incl extracts from TwoFlower's image) plus a scaled 0-9 of your GAUGE font. You can pan that layer to overlay the font digits on their images, to see the differences. This photoshop version is just a temp version, experimenting. I had scanned the gauge face at 400 dpi, but for dimensionally accurate printing I'll produce an output file at 300 dpi (and matching the printer's true printable area.) So the working file will be a small integer multiple of 300 dpi. Turns out the gauge gradations are NOT equal. I'd suspected they wouldn't be, since the mechanism has at least two non-linearities I can think of. As a result, creating fill-in markers in the missing section of the gauge scale is a bit of a fudge. The dial circle marking isn't even quite a true circle. I have no idea what the manufacturing process was, and whether that was deliberate or an artifact. The actual metal dial plate isn't quite round either. @Twoflower That's a beautiful gauge. Beats anything I ever found. The glass is bevelled! I also notice it does not have a blow-out plate on the rear. Made in the days when glass shards in the eyes were just a scratch. The 2nd one, vacuum gauge, made me think 'wait, I have a bunch of pretty old vacuum gauges. maybe...?' Nope, they all have much more recent, boring dial fonts. Anyway, that gauge gave me adequate font sample images of the missing numerals. The 4 and 5 above still have a bit of perspective distortion. @Nominal Animal Inkscape, thanks for the recommendation. My OS situation is a bit very archaic. Still using a 'cut down' version of XP, but I see Inkscape does have a compatible older ver available. I will try it... eventually. The plan is to upgrade switch to Win7, but only after I have a cut-down, sane-itized version, via the NTLite util. But this is a project I keep putting off due to too many others, and something of a phobia re wasting time stuffing around with endless Windows install issues. Life's too short. SVG - unfortunately I have no SVG utils. Have been meaning to rectify that (for web use.) Just now looked it up: https://dev.w3.org/SVG/tools/svgweb/docs/QuickStart.html and came across this: "If native SVG support is already present in the browser then that is used, though you can override this and have the SVG Web toolkit handle things instead. No downloads or plugins are necessary other than Flash which is used for the actual rendering" OK, which browsers have native SVG support, vs which require Flash for SVG rendering? I need to read more. I won't touch anything that requires Flash. |
| Nominal Animal:
--- Quote from: TerraHertz on June 07, 2020, 10:00:24 am ---OK, which browsers have native SVG support --- End quote --- All since IE 5.0 or so. Older IE and Netscape did not render text in SVG files, but the zipped SVG file doesn't have any; all it has are paths and the JPEG image on the background. If you can see my homepage, your browser has very good native SVG support. It is safe to access, doesn't even have Javascript, and definitely won't suggest you download or install anything. |
| TerraHertz:
--- Quote from: Nominal Animal on June 07, 2020, 11:01:24 am --- --- Quote from: TerraHertz on June 07, 2020, 10:00:24 am ---OK, which browsers have native SVG support --- End quote --- All since IE 5.0 or so. Older IE and Netscape did not render text in SVG files, but the zipped SVG file doesn't have any; all it has are paths and the JPEG image on the background. If you can see my homepage, your browser has very good native SVG support. It is safe to access, doesn't even have Javascript, and definitely won't suggest you download or install anything. --- End quote --- Thanks, I'll still look into SVG. But browsers seem to only render the background image in that font file. Your home page - nice graphic, but what is the argument for using SVG in a static case like that? The html is 96KB of meaningless-to-humans SVG script, while a small PNG of the exact same images is 21KB and the wrapping html would be tiny and clear. So why? |
| Domagoj T:
You can scale vector graphics as you please. Zoom in on the penguin (and letters), it stays all pretty. A raster image, such as PNG would get pixelated. |
| Nominal Animal:
--- Quote from: TerraHertz on June 07, 2020, 11:35:24 am ---But browsers seem to only render the background image in that file. --- End quote --- Yeah, because it's in Inkscape edit mode with all sorts of stuff besides; like having the tick marks rotate correctly around the dial face if you want to adjust them.. You can look at the plain version here. --- Quote from: TerraHertz on June 07, 2020, 11:35:24 am ---Your home page - nice graphic, but what is the argument for using SVG in a static case like that? --- End quote --- It renders perfectly for both small phone displays, and for maximized windows on a 4K display. When you view it, you can scale it by either resizing your browser window, or by your Zoom/Scale settings – pressing Ctrl and + or Ctrl and - changes the Zoom/Scale –, and you'll see it stays sharp and scaling defect-free at all cases. You can't do that with pixmap images. --- Quote from: TerraHertz on June 07, 2020, 11:35:24 am ---a small PNG of the exact same images is 21KB --- End quote --- You mean, exact same image on your particular display hardware and zoom/scale level. Images don't scale well, and I particularly dislike the telltale defects. SVG works much better. |
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