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Online Le_Bassiste

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... Biometric security is extremely dangerous if you have no way to recover a forgotten password. ...

or, a cut-off finger or popped-out eyeball, for that matter.
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Indeed =)
Actually, I use fingerprint on my phone because it's convenient AND I don't hold any critical information in it. I find having to enter a password every 3 days very annoying, for 2 reasons: entering passwords on a "small" touchscreen is very shitty, and you can't set the time period as I said, and it can also happen at the worst moment when you need to make a quick call, or something.

But on a computer with a normal keyboard, I have no problem with passwords and would rather avoid biometric stuff.
 

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I find having to enter a password every 3 days very annoying

Can't you enter a pattern instead?
 

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I find having to enter a password every 3 days very annoying

Can't you enter a pattern instead?

Those patterns are horrible.  Never use them.  It's usually trivial to observe the pattern in fingerprint smudges — especially if you unlock the phone and immediately hand it to someone to use supervised (a very common case), as they can trivially note the sequence and then if they get their hands on it later unsupervised...  Numeric codes are a little better, though not much (distinct button presses are a little harder to observe).

That said, I remember my pin codes by pattern, not by the digits.
 
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I use a pattern on mine and even knowing what it is I can't see it in the smudges. But I don't use a screen protector, so perhaps they show a better record.
 

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To achieve full stupidity you need a good teacher- you cant be born that way.
 

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To achieve full stupidity you need a good teacher- you cant be born that way.

Is this the voice of experience?  :P
 

Offline rstofer

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As to human stupidity:

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"Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former."
 -Albert Einstein.
 

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But back to reason for the topic in the first place: it's not about stupidity per se - it's about greed and control, on one side, ignorance and submission on the other side.
 

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And to answer the subject title: There isn't, because stupidity and ingenuity forms a ring, with a zone of chaos opposite to common sense.

Starting at common sense, going past ingenuity, you get to the apparently chaotic zone that lead to the declaration that any sufficiently advanced technology is like magic; except that sufficiently advanced forms of rational thinking and logic are non-understandable to us normal humans.

Starting at common sense, going past stupidity, you get to the chaotic zone where those performing the stupidity cannot express any reason to the choices and actions they made.

It is well known that those two zones are just the two ends of the same chaotic zone.  This is because sometimes an utterly stupid idea can lead to brilliant results, and an utterly brilliant idea can lead to horrible results, without any part of the event chain passing through the "common sense" zone.  Politics is a perfect example of this: the systems that work best in practice are those that do not strive for the best possible utopia, but attempt to simply limit the damage done by stupid humans.  Keep away from the chaos, and do only gentle changes in the direction.

Furthermore, if we look at the time evolution of systems involving humans, we find that chaotic zones in the ring are actually a fractal, with the smallest density near the "common sense" zone.  Because at the smallest scales the "stupidity-sensibility ring" is non-contiguous, it cannot have a proper mathematical limit either.

The funny thing about this post is that I'm being absolutely serious here: this is a functional model for estimating human behaviour in the game theoretic sense.

If one wants to be pretentious and artsy-fartsy about it, they can just laconically state that stupidity is the ring that binds us all (because this statement takes at least a couple of laps around this ring itself).
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I keep getting awful Android developer ads when watching YouTube that make this video look like a compelling case of Android advocacy.
 


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