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'Home' devices now 'TOO' smart!!??
eti:
--- Quote from: GlennSprigg on July 06, 2021, 10:53:52 am ---I apologize if this guy has been posted/commented on before... but I've only just seen it!. :)
He seems to speak with some level of authority/experience, in regards to modern WiFi/Bluetooth systems.
He talks about low cost built-in chips & software in numerous common modern household appliances, on top
of the typical computers, phones, routers, smart-TV's etc. They are being set-up to not only 'talk' to each other,
but more importantly to communicate outside the home via other neighbors etc, forming an integral part of new
networking systems. In my mind... I can sort of 'liken' it to using multiple peers etc for the likes of LiveWire/LimeWire
etc, where data is passed on, from multiple people, and collated. I don't understand it, but maybe others can!!!
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You believe they're "smart"? Not even CLOSE. They're as stupid as a box of rocks, which is what they ARE, and as short-sighted and delusional as the fairytale believers who market them to us. The "A" of "AI" is EXTREEEEEEEEMLY "A" - it's artificial in the same sense that expectation that my cat will sing an opera to me, is artificial. It's DELUSION.
Bassman59:
--- Quote from: bd139 on July 06, 2021, 10:18:04 pm ---The convenience is a massive selling point for me. I bought into the Apple ecosystem hard on this and it has paid itself off ten times over so far on the organisation and productivity front having automation and voice assistance available everywhere.
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Same here. The Apple ecosystem is coherent and it works. And as far as I can tell, Apple hasn't tried to sell anything to me, except for maybe new Apple products.
SiliconWizard:
--- Quote from: eti on July 07, 2021, 01:21:40 am ---You believe they're "smart"? Not even CLOSE. They're as stupid as a box of rocks, which is what they ARE, and as short-sighted and delusional as the fairytale believers who market them to us. The "A" of "AI" is EXTREEEEEEEEMLY "A" - it's artificial in the same sense that expectation that my cat will sing an opera to me, is artificial. It's DELUSION.
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Of course. Well. They are not "too smart". But they are definitely too connected.
PlainName:
--- Quote ---You believe they're "smart"?
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Wasn't me that suggested any 'smarts' but, since you bring it up, the Oxford Dictionary of English says:
--- Quote ---• (of a device) programmed so as to be capable of some independent action: hi-tech smart weapons.
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Since these things are connecting without user direction, I think that matches the stated definition.
Perhaps you are using a different flavour of English but neglected to make that known before you rant.
RJSV:
I see this stuff again:
Please allow me to point out, how a little expansion of the 'mesh network' concept includes EXCLUSION, in opposition, (simultaneously). That is, while these networks (IOT) are attempting easy connection with
everything nearby, your personal use and access will often task you with a SIGN UP, CREATE AN ACCOUNT.
Of course some of this I'm OK with, but often end up with a lot of 'fluff', one more new password, more tracking of what you personally do, one more 'portal' to log into...
So now when browsing a couple JOB postings, I come across a request to fill out some forms involving
work background history. SIGN UP, GET PASSWORD, LOG ON, you are now required (forced), in order to proceed into the particular JOB posting.
GOOGLE is mostly OK, but being forced into creating an 'account', just to reply for a needed job, CRUD.
Shear CRUD.
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