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'Home' devices now 'TOO' smart!!??

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GlennSprigg:
I apologize if this guy has been posted/commented on before... but I've only just seen it!. :)
He seems to speak with some level of authority/experience, in regards to modern WiFi/Bluetooth  systems.
He talks about low cost built-in chips & software in numerous common modern household appliances, on top
of the typical computers, phones, routers, smart-TV's etc. They are being set-up to not only 'talk' to each other,
but more importantly to communicate outside the home via other neighbors etc, forming an integral part of new
networking systems.  In my mind... I can sort of 'liken' it to using multiple peers etc for the likes of LiveWire/LimeWire
etc, where data is passed on, from multiple people, and collated.  I don't understand it, but maybe others can!!!

PlainName:
He's behind the times:

https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2021/05/amazon-devices-will-soon-automatically-share-your-internet-with-neighbors/

PartialDischarge:
I don't understand why anyone would connect *any* home device, besides your computer, to the internet.
To me TV, fridge, oven, Alexa or similar spying devices, watches... are all precluded from connecting

Stray Electron:
"I don't understand why anyone would connect *any* home device, besides your computer, to the internet.'

  I agree but what makes you think that the device builder will even ask you? Or if they do ask, will they heed your decision not to be connected? 

   And if a company don't automatically connect to your device, will they still allow the NSA, FBI, DIA, FSA, local courts and local law enforcement, etc, etc to tap into your devices without a warrant?

   Or will they simply follow current software practice and make your device totally non-functional if you decline to grant them permission to constantly spy on you and sell your information?

   Even if you don't plug an Ethernet cable into your device, what's to stop them from connecting to your device wirelessly, even through one of your neighbors' wireless routers or through a neighbor's internet connected refrigerator?

bd139:
If you’re targeted it’s game over anyway. You can’t go up against state actors.

The incorrect assumption here with most people is that you’re in some way important which you’re not.

If you really want to be inconspicuous then it’s better to have the technology and do your nefarious shit entirely out of band.

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