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How a passanger can land a 737

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Brumby:

--- Quote from: Fred27 on March 30, 2020, 05:48:46 pm ---Not quite the same, but I know someone who was flying a light aircraft solo when he had a stroke and went blind. They managed to talk him down to a successful landing.  :o

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The BIG difference there is that they would have known how to fly and would know their instrument layout.  Lack of vision could be worked around through radar, other aircraft within visual range and ground observers - but the basics of communication and what an aircraft feels like to handle would already be there.

If that were to happen on a 737 (or similar aircraft) then the pilot might still have half a chance to fly the plane with someone giving them the visual information they were missing.

rgarito:
I'm not a pilot but worked in the industry for many years.  Because of that, I know a lot of pilots and some who are even 737 type-rated.  Some have taught me a few things, but what was really interesting was that a former client of mine was a flight school that had a full motion 737 simulator (believe it or not, a professional version of MS Flight Simulator plus a ton of add-ons was the software!).  IIRC, it took about 10 PCs (each running specific modules) connected together with Firewire (yes, firewire!) to operate it.  It was FAA certified as a real simulator.  Anyways, I played in that quite a bit and in a pinch I might be able to pull it off (albeit, it's been several years so I probably forgot a few things).  And obviously with guidance over the radio, as various procedures and calculations and limits I would not know.  Of course being in the real aircraft with the stress involved would be a factor that one has to consider, too....

As for radio frequencies, again, being in the industry previously (but not a pilot), I am aware of the types of frequencies, etc.  A google search of the approach plates, if you could not figure out how to use the electronic versions on the aircraft, it would be pretty easy to figure out the proper ATC frequencies.  (provided you can get an internet connection of course).  You can also squawk the emergency code on the transponder to get attention (I forget the code, but it's the same worldwide).  Squawking the code is as simple as dialing in the 4-digit code in the proper place and (I think) you have to press IDENT.  That would at least get ATCs undivided attention.

For the record, I've also flown in a Learjet-55 simulator's right seat a couple of times, with a real lear pilot (who used to be my business partner) in the left seat and also a flight instructor (who was a friend) at the trainer's console...  At one point I was considering getting a pilot's license but never got around to it.

Brumby:
Squawk code is 7700.

Emergency frequency is 121.5MHz

Other than that, I know very little.

SkyMaster:

--- Quote from: Brumby on April 01, 2020, 06:07:23 am ---Squawk code is 7700.

Emergency frequency is 121.5MHz

Other than that, I know very little.

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121.5 MHz is for when you have no other frequency to work with.

An emergency should be declared on the frequency that is being currently used. As I mentioned earlier, an airliner is operating IFR and is always in communication with an ATC facility somewhere. A Mayday or a Pan Pan will get you full ATC attention.

A pilot incapacitation situation, where a passenger is on the radio would definitively be a Mayday.

 :)

SkyMaster:

--- Quote from: rgarito on April 01, 2020, 03:27:13 am ---I'm not a pilot but worked in the industry for many years.  Because of that, I know a lot of pilots and some who are even 737 type-rated.  Some have taught me a few things,

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You are not a typical passenger. While you are not a pilot, you have some knowledge. And this is what you should tell ATC if you ever find yourself in a position where you have to bring a plane back on the ground.

I am not aware of any large airplane that was flown back on the ground by a none-pilot. But it happened several times with light general aviation airplane.

 :)

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