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How car telematics helped catch a murderer
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tom66:

--- Quote from: angrybird on February 26, 2020, 06:19:40 am ---Trust me when I tell you that car manufacturers have been selling this data without your direct consent since the inception of these systems, they get around rules because the data is "anonymized".... Companies ARE using this data, as an example State Farm IS setting some drivers' insurance rates based on some of this information and no one is supposed to know this.  I have independently proven this on multiple SYNC capable vehicles manufactured in 2012-2014 model year.
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I would be interested to see your research on this.
G7PSK:


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OK so there is a way to silence it...
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Wrap the cars antennae in tin foil bonded to the rest of the car might stop it, would not be surprised if it also stopped the car when it failed to report back to the manufacturers.
Mr. Scram:

--- Quote from: G7PSK on February 26, 2020, 02:01:49 pm ---
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OK so there is a way to silence it...

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Wrap the cars antennae in tin foil bonded to the rest of the car might stop it, would not be surprised if it also stopped the car when it failed to report back to the manufacturers.

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I don't think these are conveniently placed antennas which are accessible to wrap.
SilverSolder:

--- Quote from: Mr. Scram on February 26, 2020, 04:56:10 pm ---
--- Quote from: G7PSK on February 26, 2020, 02:01:49 pm ---
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OK so there is a way to silence it...

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Wrap the cars antennae in tin foil bonded to the rest of the car might stop it, would not be surprised if it also stopped the car when it failed to report back to the manufacturers.

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I don't think these are conveniently placed antennas which are accessible to wrap.

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Where there's a will, there's a way...

I don't foresee ever wanting to own a car that would "squeal" on my sometimes very enthusiastic driving on empty roads!   :-DD
angrybird:
Your phone is already doing it.  With GPSDO in every cell tower, continuous multilateration is performed and your phone's geographical location logged in perpetuity every time it pings the tower.  This has been going on for nearly 20 years and based on police radio traffic I hear, and while it was not very accurate in the 2000's, they are now able to locate to under 50m radius without GPS due to the density of cell towers and increased accuracy from the new trimble GPSDO they use.  911 dispatchers in the USA hand this information out to officers constantly upon request, over the radio, no warrant required.
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