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Zero999:

--- Quote from: aetherist on February 05, 2023, 08:17:54 pm ---
--- Quote from: Zero999 on February 05, 2023, 04:58:49 pm ---The Doppler effect is interesting, together the way light can exert a physical force on an object. If you take a reflective object, moving away from you and shine a green laser at it. The reflected radiation will be red-shifted, but remember lower frequencies have less energy, so where did the energy go? It gave the object a little push, causing its velocity to increase slightly. The reverse is true for an object travelling towards you. The reflected radiation will be blue shifted and the object will slow down a little, as the extra energy in the blue shifting is robbed from the object's momentum.
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So, according to your theory(s), a green laser light reflecting between 2 stationary mirrors, will quickly end up red.
If the mirrors are say 1 m apart then there will be say 300,000,000 reflexions per second – how many seconds would u say it would take to turn red? – i don’t remember this sort of computation – but it is interesting – i am thinking that an experiment would not support that the laser quickly turns red.

But what about a radio signal reflecting between 2 mirrors – ie em radiation reflecting between 2 mirrors – would the signal looz frequency? – if radio acted similarly to photons then i suppose that according to me the radio signal would not looz frequency.

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No. There will be no red shift in that example, because the mirrors are stationary.

IanB:

--- Quote from: aetherist on February 05, 2023, 08:17:54 pm ---So, according to your theory(s), a green laser light reflecting between 2 stationary mirrors, will quickly end up red.
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Nothing said by Zero999 implied that. Try reading it again.

aetherist:

--- Quote from: Zero999 on February 05, 2023, 08:26:03 pm ---
--- Quote from: aetherist on February 05, 2023, 08:17:54 pm ---
--- Quote from: Zero999 on February 05, 2023, 04:58:49 pm ---The Doppler effect is interesting, together the way light can exert a physical force on an object. If you take a reflective object, moving away from you and shine a green laser at it. The reflected radiation will be red-shifted, but remember lower frequencies have less energy, so where did the energy go? It gave the object a little push, causing its velocity to increase slightly. The reverse is true for an object travelling towards you. The reflected radiation will be blue shifted and the object will slow down a little, as the extra energy in the blue shifting is robbed from the object's momentum.
--- End quote ---
So, according to your theory(s), a green laser light reflecting between 2 stationary mirrors, will quickly end up red.
If the mirrors are say 1 m apart then there will be say 300,000,000 reflexions per second – how many seconds would u say it would take to turn red? – i don’t remember this sort of computation – but it is interesting – i am thinking that an experiment would not support that the laser quickly turns red.
But what about a radio signal reflecting between 2 mirrors – ie em radiation reflecting between 2 mirrors – would the signal looz frequency? – if radio acted similarly to photons then i suppose that according to me the radio signal would not looz frequency.
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No. There will be no red shift in that example, because the mirrors are stationary.
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So, u are saying that reflexion off a mirror loozes energy if the mirror is going, & gains energy if the mirror is coming, & is neutral if the mirror is stationary – ok i am ok with that – but i wouldn’t be surprised if empirical evidence said that a little bit of energy was lost with every reflexion (ie unless the mirror had a small coming). And of course no glass would be allowed.
But, as an aetherist, i need to add that there is no such thing as a stationary mirror (nor a stationary antenna) – if an aetherwind blows throo Earth  etc, then everything has an absolute velocity all the time – unless that thing is co-moving exactly with the aetherwind (nigh impossible). But i don’t want to waste time re that.

Halcyon:

--- Quote from: aetherist on February 05, 2023, 11:19:56 am ---I will write proper when u learn to pronounce proper.

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How about you start writing "proper" now? I've gone back through some of your recent posts and they just seem to be complete nonsense.

I don't know if you're just a troll, or whether your medication needs adjusting but you don't make a lot of sense.

Zero999:

--- Quote from: aetherist on February 05, 2023, 09:30:39 pm ---
--- Quote from: Zero999 on February 05, 2023, 08:26:03 pm ---
--- Quote from: aetherist on February 05, 2023, 08:17:54 pm ---
--- Quote from: Zero999 on February 05, 2023, 04:58:49 pm ---The Doppler effect is interesting, together the way light can exert a physical force on an object. If you take a reflective object, moving away from you and shine a green laser at it. The reflected radiation will be red-shifted, but remember lower frequencies have less energy, so where did the energy go? It gave the object a little push, causing its velocity to increase slightly. The reverse is true for an object travelling towards you. The reflected radiation will be blue shifted and the object will slow down a little, as the extra energy in the blue shifting is robbed from the object's momentum.
--- End quote ---
So, according to your theory(s), a green laser light reflecting between 2 stationary mirrors, will quickly end up red.
If the mirrors are say 1 m apart then there will be say 300,000,000 reflexions per second – how many seconds would u say it would take to turn red? – i don’t remember this sort of computation – but it is interesting – i am thinking that an experiment would not support that the laser quickly turns red.
But what about a radio signal reflecting between 2 mirrors – ie em radiation reflecting between 2 mirrors – would the signal looz frequency? – if radio acted similarly to photons then i suppose that according to me the radio signal would not looz frequency.
--- End quote ---
No. There will be no red shift in that example, because the mirrors are stationary.
--- End quote ---
So, u are saying that reflexion off a mirror loozes energy if the mirror is going, & gains energy if the mirror is coming, & is neutral if the mirror is stationary – ok i am ok with that – but i wouldn’t be surprised if empirical evidence said that a little bit of energy was lost with every reflexion (ie unless the mirror had a small coming). And of course no glass would be allowed.
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No energy is lost. If the object is moving away, the energy transferred from the reflected light, to the object's momentum. If the object is moving closer, energy is transferred from the object's momentum to the reflected light. In both cases, some energy will be absorbed by the mirror, which is not perfect, but it will not be lost, it will increase the mirror and object's temperature.


--- Quote ---But, as an aetherist, i need to add that there is no such thing as a stationary mirror (nor a stationary antenna) – if an aetherwind blows throo Earth  etc, then everything has an absolute velocity all the time – unless that thing is co-moving exactly with the aetherwind (nigh impossible). But i don’t want to waste time re that.

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Everything is moving through space time. I'm talking about the relative velocity between the two mirrors being zero, i.e. they're both the same distance apart. The aetherist/wind stuff is complete rubbish.

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