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How is Chipageddon affecting you?
peter-h:
I've been in electronic mfg since 1978 and little has changed in the way the industry behaves.
It has gradually got worse with the internet. It has brought us easy to find data sheets, forums where you can get help (just as well because nobody can read 2000 page RMs) but it killed all other support, so part mfgs have cut themselves off from non OEM volume users, and the distis which used to do this job have almost universally filled up with absolute chimps who cannot even quote for an 0805 1k resistor unless you have the exact P/N.
These shortages have always been around periodically. this last one got worse because of covid disruption, causing widespread panic and hoarding.
It is coming to the end now but nobody in the supply pipeline will admit that their business is rapidly dying and they aren't getting any new orders because everybody is stocked up to their ears. Unfortunately the stocks were bought at silly prices and nobody wants to take the hit on the write-down. Like this
https://www.mouser.co.uk/ProductDetail/FTDI/FT232BL-REEL?qs=D1%2FPMqvA100PI4e%2FlmnSkg%3D%3D
Dead stock, nobody buying (because FTDI fuc**d everybody over with demands for $1+/chip ransom payments), silly price, but nobody will admit it.
SilverSolder:
--- Quote from: peter-h on January 31, 2023, 12:34:16 pm ---I've been in electronic mfg since 1978 and little has changed in the way the industry behaves.
It has gradually got worse with the internet. It has brought us easy to find data sheets, forums where you can get help (just as well because nobody can read 2000 page RMs) but it killed all other support, so part mfgs have cut themselves off from non OEM volume users, and the distis which used to do this job have almost universally filled up with absolute chimps who cannot even quote for an 0805 1k resistor unless you have the exact P/N.
These shortages have always been around periodically. this last one got worse because of covid disruption, causing widespread panic and hoarding.
It is coming to the end now but nobody in the supply pipeline will admit that their business is rapidly dying and they aren't getting any new orders because everybody is stocked up to their ears. Unfortunately the stocks were bought at silly prices and nobody wants to take the hit on the write-down. Like this
https://www.mouser.co.uk/ProductDetail/FTDI/FT232BL-REEL?qs=D1%2FPMqvA100PI4e%2FlmnSkg%3D%3D
Dead stock, nobody buying (because FTDI fuc**d everybody over with demands for $1+/chip ransom payments), silly price, but nobody will admit it.
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The problem with fuc***ng your customers over is that their memories of your abuses last longer than the pleasure of the short term profit...
peter-h:
It's collapsing:
Analog Devices lead-time notification
Good afternoon
Please find below a message directly from ADI notifying customers that lead-times are improving through 2023.
Although this is positive news for all of us, it remains imperative that ADI have as much visibility through 2023 as possible to best meet your requirements.
To discuss your ongoing ADI, LT or Maxim requirements please do not hesitate to contact your dedicated sales contact or a member of our field applications team.
Never seen such an email before.
Bud:
More specific lead time details from Digikey here:
https://www.eevblog.com/forum/reviews/digikey-claimes-shorter-lead-time-(lol)/msg4675732/#msg4675732
tszaboo:
--- Quote from: Bud on February 06, 2023, 04:25:39 pm ---More specific lead time details from Digikey here:
https://www.eevblog.com/forum/reviews/digikey-claimes-shorter-lead-time-(lol)/msg4675732/#msg4675732
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13 weeks -as I recall- is basically the time to go through the production line. So there is like constant free capacity?
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