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| KE5FX:
My guess is they aren't trying to fix prices or even increase them deliberately, but to clear out a lot of old parts from their back catalogs. A lot of these parts aren't coming back at all IMHO. Not in 2027, not in 2037, not ever. You don't post 5-year lead times if you expect to sell any parts at any price, whether high or low. Frankly, they are probably trying to figure out how to sell their old fabs off. There will never be a better time for them to do that. "Never let a good crisis go to waste," as the politicians say. |
| james_s:
--- Quote from: Psi on September 30, 2021, 11:52:45 am ---It's also probably the manufacturers will try to keep the chip shortage going as long as they can, in a sort of unspoken price fixing scheme. No one is in a hurry to lower prices back to normal levels, increase volume yes, but not lower prices. --- End quote --- I think it's likely for that to backfire. One company will decide to be the one that can deliver parts, and the companies that can't deliver will soon find their products designed out of things. |
| Red Squirrel:
--- Quote from: floobydust on September 29, 2021, 11:15:32 pm ---Commodities pricing is just crazy. Almost all of them- coal, copper, aluminum, natural gas are 150-200% up. Coal is up 160%. I wonder when china will cower and buy more Australian coal :popcorn: But factories in guangdong starving for power is a disaster heading into winter. There is some kind of big bubble inflating, with energy, commodities and shipping costs. --- End quote --- Just bought around 10m of 8/3 teck cable and it cost me like $200. :o I was going to hold off since I hate buying when I know the prices are higher than they should be, but I really wanted to get this cable run done before the snow hits. But yeah it's nuts. Running power from my shed's solar system to a separate sub panel in my house. Thankfully I already have a full roll of 14/2 romex and 14/2 BX so I'm good as far as inside wiring goes. I was hoping to add a couple 20a circuits to the server room but I can get by with 15a since even 12/2 wiring is crazy expensive right now. |
| f4eru:
--- Quote from: james_s on September 30, 2021, 08:21:13 pm ---I think it's likely for that to backfire. One company will decide to be the one that can deliver parts, and the companies that can't deliver will soon find their products designed out of things. --- End quote --- Short term gains, baby. It's all about the short term. Doesn't matter if you blow up your business on the long run if you can do a buck today.. |
| Miyuki:
--- Quote from: Red Squirrel on October 01, 2021, 01:34:35 am --- --- Quote from: floobydust on September 29, 2021, 11:15:32 pm ---Commodities pricing is just crazy. Almost all of them- coal, copper, aluminum, natural gas are 150-200% up. Coal is up 160%. I wonder when china will cower and buy more Australian coal :popcorn: But factories in guangdong starving for power is a disaster heading into winter. There is some kind of big bubble inflating, with energy, commodities and shipping costs. --- End quote --- Just bought around 10m of 8/3 teck cable and it cost me like $200. :o I was going to hold off since I hate buying when I know the prices are higher than they should be, but I really wanted to get this cable run done before the snow hits. But yeah it's nuts. Running power from my shed's solar system to a separate sub panel in my house. Thankfully I already have a full roll of 14/2 romex and 14/2 BX so I'm good as far as inside wiring goes. I was hoping to add a couple 20a circuits to the server room but I can get by with 15a since even 12/2 wiring is crazy expensive right now. --- End quote --- Here in Europe cable prices look stable at a supplier I use But steel is double and wood in the sky |
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