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AndyC_772:

--- Quote from: jonpaul on November 05, 2022, 07:39:25 am ---OP: As a contractor or consultant you will have NO time for TV, Video, Family, etc.

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You're doing it wrong.

nctnico:

--- Quote from: Kasper on November 05, 2022, 05:38:14 am ---
--- Quote from: nctnico on November 05, 2022, 12:05:21 am ---
--- Quote from: tom66 on November 04, 2022, 11:03:54 pm ---IMO, I would avoid being a contractor in the current economic climate, unless you've just been made redundant from a perm position.  Most people think the West is likely to fall into a recession, even the US is not immune. That's a bad time to be a contractor, as companies look to cut those first (as they're expensive) and they avoid new projects, which are of course the lifeblood of contracting. 

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Actually a recession is the best time to be contracting development work. Companies finally have time to invest in new products and changing economics force the design of new products in order to stay relevant. I've been contracting full time for about 12 years already. Economic downturn means my business is booming. It is the economic highs that give me trouble because everyone is busy selling products and new development is pushed ahead into the future.


--- Quote ---Legal:  depends on the area you work in, but at minimum professional indemnity insurance covering your field, but if you work on any products that are exposed to the general public then public liability may also be worth considering (for instance art installations).

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That is bad advise. Professional indemnity insurance doesn't exist unless it is legally required. If you contract for companies then rule out any liability in terms and conditions. When selling consumer products, setup several limited liability holding companies. One that keeps the money + intellectual property and one that takes care of the sales. This is something to talk about with a lawyer; the aim is to make sure you can keep your home in case something goes really wrong with a product. Where it comes to consumer product liability it is extremely important to make sure a product complies with all regulations and is certified by third parties. That at least shows that you have taken steps to make sure the product is designed to be safe.

It is good to have an accident liability insurance though in case you knock over an expensive piece of equipment at a customer; these insurances are not expensive.

To the OP: this subject has come up many times already and very usefull advice on all topics you have questions about has been given already. Try the forum's search function

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Perhaps your differing opinions come from differing size of companies? In downturns, small companies are trying to avoid bankruptcy while big companies are trying to avoid severance payments?

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That is the wrong seperation. You have to seperate companies in two types: the ones that are weak and the ones that are strong. Size doesn't matter. Recession will kill the weak companies that where coasting along anyway; these are not potentional customers because they won't invest in new technology due to lack of funds or vision.

Which touches on the most important subject where it comes to contracting: customers. The very best way to start contracting is by doing this next to your regular job. Just try to reel in a project and do it. See how it goes. My strong advice is to take on the project for a fixed price even if the customer doesn't seem to care how much it will cost (they do care!).

AndyC_772:

--- Quote from: tom66 on November 04, 2022, 11:03:54 pm ---It's rarer to just find someone looking for just a "general electronics engineer" ie I need schematics, PCB...  That doesn't mean these roles don't exist, but they may be more oversubscribed and would likely be done more by perm employees.  You'll probably do better in a niche field, one where it's not worth hiring someone to work full time.  Especially because you can command a higher rate.
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I agree. None of my regular customers came to me wanting a 'general' electronic engineer; they all wanted an engineer with specific, proven experience in their own particular product area - or at least, something close enough that it's obvious that the skills and requirements are transferrable.

Tip: don't advertise yourself in terms of your electronics skills. Instead, advertise the kinds of industries and products you've worked on, and/or the type you want to work on in future. Most of my customers don't have an electronics design dept of their own, and don't especially care what types of components or circuits I use to solve their problems.

What I deliver is a solution to a problem, usually consisting of CAD data, a BoM, firmware, documentation, and support. Nobody really cares about the implementation details until much later - often when it's already in production and they just want to better understand how everything works (and knowing already that it does, in fact, work).


--- Quote ---From what you've described of your skill set, my honest impression is that contracting might be hard work for you, but I'm speaking from a UK position, as a perm employee, so YMMV.
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What leaps out at me, is that you're academically qualified and have 14 years' experience, yet you describe your own skill level as 'junior' in terms of anything complex, and the tools you're still using are hobby grade at best.

Why is that? What have you been doing for those 14 years? Designing, or just soldering?

Being a consulting engineer (and maybe that's not what you mean by 'contractor'...?) means you need to be able to confidently walk in to a new customer's office, listen to their needs, and using your own skill and experience, decipher what they really mean, and convince them that you can offer a solution. Or walk away if you know you can't.

Don't underestimate how hard this is. The people you meet won't be electronic engineers, they won't speak in the same jargon and won't necessarily frame their requirements in terms of an electrical spec. Remember that they're hiring you to be the electronics expert.

The first part of any job is to come up with an engineering specification, ie. a list of deliverables that actually will solve your customer's problem - including the parts of the problem that they don't know about yet, but still expect you to take care of. Remember again: there's a good chance they're looking for you to make their electronics problem go away, and that's the whole problem, not just the bits they're explicitly spelling out on day one.

Their needs could be tightly specified, which is great when it happens. They could be trivial, to the point where you feel bad even charging for your time. They could be vague. They could be impossible. They could be vastly more difficult and costly than they're expecting. Worst of all is when they're implicit, and neither of you even mentions them until it's too late and you get the "doesn't it even do...?" phone call.

My advice? Try and get a full time job in a design capacity, where you can develop your skills and, if at all possible, meet some customers.

Be aware, some companies like to build a wall between customers and engineers, as though allowing the two to meet is somehow dangerous.

It's not. Customers are just people, trying to make a living, and they have problems you can help them with. 99% of the time they'll be delighted to see you; the other 1% is when something has gone wrong and they're not getting the support they expect.

Just don't be both of the reasons for that 1%.

Kasper:

--- Quote from: Ed.Kloonk on November 05, 2022, 06:52:43 am ---Wife/spouse/partner is key for shoring up the shortfalls. Can't overstate it.

Speaking of partners, is there anyone you know who might be interested in 'going halves' in the exercise?

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My wife is great.  There are some people I'd like to work with but I think I'd prefer to be solo.  How does one get into that? You find a big contract and invite friends to help?

Kasper:

--- Quote from: bidrohini on November 05, 2022, 07:27:44 am ---This video may be of some help:
Here is also a forum where contractors often hang around: https://forums.mikeholt.com/

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Thank you, this will be something to listen to when I go hiking today.

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