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How to get my senior citz. parents TV without cable? 255$ month cable bill!
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NiHaoMike:

--- Quote from: rsjsouza on April 02, 2021, 10:13:12 pm ---We did come full circle. Any solid state analog TV at power on shows an image faster than the latest models of a digital one. Shameful, really.

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Some (not so) "smart" ones, perhaps. Last year, my dad got a 27" Acer for working from home and that takes about a second to show the image. It was a modern version of what used to be called "HD ready" displays, no capability to play stuff on its own, just a Displayport input and a HDMI input.

Not sure why so many smart TVs take forever to boot, they're pretty much very large tablets and a few milliwatts to keep the RAM contents is no big deal.
james_s:
I hate the whole concept of a "smart" TV, integrate something with a 2-4 year life cycle into something that should have a 15-25 year life cycle, it makes no sense at all. On top of that, a lot of them now show ads in the menus! The whole reason it's so hard to find a non-smart TV is that the smart ones are subsidized by advertising and data harvesting. I just want a monitor with a bunch of HDMI inputs.
duckduck:

--- Quote from: james_s on April 03, 2021, 04:12:37 am ---I hate the whole concept of a "smart" TV, integrate something with a 2-4 year life cycle into something that should have a 15-25 year life cycle, it makes no sense at all. On top of that, a lot of them now show ads in the menus! The whole reason it's so hard to find a non-smart TV is that the smart ones are subsidized by advertising and data harvesting. I just want a monitor with a bunch of HDMI inputs.

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Agree 100%. They sell "dumb" TVs for commercial use, like in videoconference rooms and to display the menu up on the wall behind the cash registers at the local fast-food restaurant. Warning: the doctors that perform lobotomies on smart TVs drive very nice cars. When you see the price for one of these "dumb" TVs you will make that sound that you make when you jump into an ice bath. I used to chat with the AV guys at my work, commercial TVs/monitors are what they all buy for themselves. I plan on investing in one when my pre-smart-TV-age Sony dies.
tooki:
There are a number of giant “computer displays” that probably can be pressed into service as a dumb TV, and don’t necessarily cost an arm and a leg.
tooki:

--- Quote from: james_s on April 03, 2021, 04:12:37 am ---I hate the whole concept of a "smart" TV, integrate something with a 2-4 year life cycle into something that should have a 15-25 year life cycle, it makes no sense at all. On top of that, a lot of them now show ads in the menus! The whole reason it's so hard to find a non-smart TV is that the smart ones are subsidized by advertising and data harvesting. I just want a monitor with a bunch of HDMI inputs.

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I find it incredible that they now have built in image fingerprinting that monitors the displayed image and identifies what’s being watched, basically the same way Shazam and SoundHound can identify a song via a 3 second recording through a phone microphone. Unfuckingbelievable that that crap is allowed. Even in places (like the EU) where that requires affirmative consent, they sneak it into the EULA consent on setup so people innocently agree to it. Scummy as all hell.
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