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How to permanently disable FireFox updating...
thm_w:
Backing up that HDD to a SSD would probably be worth it as an insurance policy alone. You'd also save time in the long run waiting for things to load.
If you can't be bothered to check, post the laptop model number here and someone else can look it up.
Yes protel works in windows 10, as per your own thread: https://www.eevblog.com/forum/eda/patch-for-protel99se-sp6-for-win7810/
Whether its worth the time to set up, or a VM makes more sense, I don't know.
BrianHG:
--- Quote from: thm_w on October 16, 2023, 11:26:48 pm ---Backing up that HDD to a SSD would probably be worth it as an insurance policy alone.
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I am not an amateur. I do have network backup at 2 external locations and have an emergency external mirrored drive on hand. I've been around.
soldar:
--- Quote from: JeremyC on October 15, 2023, 12:15:22 am ---It's not OS issue. Using Linux will not resolve OP's problem... he must disable auto updates...
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I don't think so. I use Linux Mint and have the OS to only update manually and it will offer Firefox updates but I can install them whenever I want. I do not think it can do it without me inputting the password.
My gripe is that some software, like Firefox, Thunderbird and others do not offer small updates but they try to pretty much reinstall the whole thing which means 60 or 80 or 100 or more MB each time which for someone with limited bandwidth is a PITA so there are several programs I only update very infrequently. And then they mess up my settings so I decide to not update them at all.
And I do not see why they need to update cajillions of GB so often. They could start by making software safe from the start instead of doing a shoddy mess and then letting others discover discover holes. Most of the time they are just playing with new "features" while they introduce vulnerabilities.
I have not updated Firefox in a long time and have no intention of doing so any time soon.
SiliconWizard:
--- Quote from: soldar on October 17, 2023, 04:32:20 pm ---
--- Quote from: JeremyC on October 15, 2023, 12:15:22 am ---It's not OS issue. Using Linux will not resolve OP's problem... he must disable auto updates...
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I don't think so. I use Linux Mint and have the OS to only update manually and it will offer Firefox updates but I can install them whenever I want. I do not think it can do it without me inputting the password.
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Of course it can't, unless the application was running as root. If you use Linux and you use root as your user account - or set up a user account with equivalent rights - you just deserve what you get.
Another possibility would be if the application was installed not "system-wide" but locally. That would be relatively uncommon, especially for an application that has a distro package on all distributions that I've ever run into.
For people with such a setup, I'd be curious to know the details, please.
Note that on Windows, Firefox (and Thunderbird) resort to an awful trick to allow self-updating (whether automatically or not) *without asking for an admin password*.
They install a service (by default) that basically allows bypassing UAC for the Mozilla products. How sweet.
So If you have ever wondered why Firefox was one of the very rare apps that never asked for a password for updating, now you know.
This service can be disabled of course, but you have to go to the administrations tools and manually disable it.
How sweet from Mozilla, they probably wanted to "lower any friction" to the use of their web browser, as they say in marketing.
I'm personally a long time user of Firefox because it just works for me and is still one of the best for privacy. Also I want to encourage alternatives to the Chrome monopoly.
But the attitude of the Mozilla foundation, unfortunately, I find more and more unacceptable.
kjpye:
--- Quote from: soldar on October 17, 2023, 04:32:20 pm ---
--- Quote from: JeremyC on October 15, 2023, 12:15:22 am ---It's not OS issue. Using Linux will not resolve OP's problem... he must disable auto updates...
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I don't think so. I use Linux Mint and have the OS to only update manually and it will offer Firefox updates but I can install them whenever I want. I do not think it can do it without me inputting the password.
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The problem I have with Firefox on Linux (provided by the distribution) is that even when Firefox is not updated, if you are patching a live system, and there should be no reason not to, is that it often will decide to stop working and require you to restart it. If you fire up a new tab and try to open something in it, Firefox will give you an error message and prompt you to restart. In existing tabs it may just stop working with no indication of why.
While the restart will remember what you had open, any entry into a tab will be lost. If you have live windows of some sort you will lose whatever state they had, and whatever you had tried to open will be forgotten, even if it's some sort of complicated URL or query.
Most annoying.
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