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How would you use electronics to solve the 11' 8" bridge problem
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Mr. Scram:
Sometimes the simplest solution is the best. Increase the height of the bridge, lower the height of the road or a combination of both. The rest are just engineering problems. They raise bridges many times larger than these all the time, so it's basically a solved problem.

I'm not buying the sewer pipe story either. There's plenty of other places to put those pipes if you want to and it's actually not uncommon for sewage pipes to dip in a few places. If you somehow concluded there absolutely is no room for them underneath the overpass, there's remote controlled drilling. You can go right under the embankment, allowing the underpass to be as deep as you'd want.

At this point it's just shifting the cost of fixing the problem upon the insurances of unlucky drivers. When there's over a 100 crashes, it's looking like the road authority neglecting its duties more and more.
IanB:

--- Quote from: Mr. Scram on January 07, 2018, 11:24:31 pm ---People love to hate on other people in situations like these, but if behaviour is this consistent, blaming the people isn't going to work. It's like those perfect parent who would never leave their children in the car. The truth is they would. It's a flaw in human behaviour, not just shoddy parenting.

That's maybe the most freighting thing. You live your life the way everyone expects you to and are a responsible adult, until you suddenly aren't any more and you haven't even consciously made the wrong choice. It could happen to pretty much anyone.

--- End quote ---

Bad behavior can be fixed by training in the human animal, just like any animal.

Only yesterday someone ran a red light and turned across in front of me a full 2-3 seconds after I had a green light to proceed. If they were guaranteed a ticket, a fine, and points on their license every time they did that, they certainly would stop doing it.
IanB:

--- Quote from: Mr. Scram on January 07, 2018, 11:32:49 pm ---At this point it's just shifting the cost of fixing the problem upon the insurances of unlucky incompetent drivers.
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There, fixed that for you. Also, if you claim on insurance for an at-fault accident, your insurance premium will go up a lot next renewal. Insurance companies don't bear the cost, you do.
NiHaoMike:

--- Quote from: Mr. Scram on January 07, 2018, 11:24:31 pm ---People love to hate on other people in situations like these, but if behaviour is this consistent, blaming the people isn't going to work. It's like those perfect parent who would never leave their children in the car. The truth is they would. It's a flaw in human behaviour, not just shoddy parenting.

That's maybe the most freighting thing. You live your life the way everyone expects you to and are a responsible adult, until you suddenly aren't any more and you haven't even consciously made the wrong choice. It could happen to pretty much anyone.

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I'd imagine a very large percentage of the accidents with that bridge were by drivers who have driven their car under it hundreds or even thousands of times before. If they only drive a truck occasionally, it's easy to forget about the height limitations and "take the route they have always taken". Something similar also happens with roof racks.
Mr. Scram:

--- Quote from: IanB on January 07, 2018, 11:34:16 pm ---Bad behavior can be fixed by training in the human animal, just like any animal.

Only yesterday someone ran a red light and turned across in front of me a full 2-3 seconds after I had a green light to proceed. If they were guaranteed a ticket, a fine, and points on their license every time they did that, they certainly would stop doing it.

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Not all bad behaviour can be "fixed". The impulse is to fine and punish, but in this case that's obviously not going to make a difference. Even at the cost of writing off a truck and possibly losing your job people still manage to do it in droves.

Aerospace is a great example of how to prevent user error. Rather than projecting all sorts of moral viewpoints on the matter, they take a practical "if it works" approach. You can't afford much else when people die if you get it wrong.
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