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Huawei 5G now banned in Britain
Rick Law:
Meta-data is hugely useful.
Just by watching the company's parking lot and loading docks, compared to the months prior, you can know how their business is going. If a company claims to be doing $100 million dollars a year, the HQ isn't going to be a the second floor on top of a small Takeout Restaurant...
I am not sure you can do this anymore with today's sensitivity:
If you have some one here for an interview, go out to the parking lot and look inside his/her car. (Well, you need his plate number so his car doesn't get ticketed parking at visitors parking all day, right?) You will know if that guy is well organized, attend to detail... Doesn't matter, "a fellow with 5 empty coffee cups and a dried out half eaten slide of pizza on the passenger seat right on top of an unpaid phone bill", I like a fellow like that handling my account receivables.
Edit: Broke up the last sentence to two - otherwise unchanged. (Since there are new post after my edit, I should say this)
Bud:
So forget Bletchley Park then, it will be Google this time around.
Rick Law:
--- Quote from: Bud on July 16, 2020, 03:46:48 am ---So forget Bletchley Park then, it will be Google this time around.
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Easier than needing to search Google.
"Fitbit’s developer Strava - which considers itself "the social network for athletes" - regularly publishes a map of around 27 million people’s jogging routes. Last November, that global database of exercise “hotspots” was updated, what it revealed has sent a shiver down US Central Command’s spine."
Say you see a whole bunch of people jogging where there was nothing but sand 10 miles in every direction, you kind of figure out may be some unit is deployed there...
Imagine what you can do with cell tower connection data. Possibilities is endless.
(I couldn't find the article I read about that originally, but here is a similar one and it is the source of the above quote)
https://proprivacy.com/privacy-news/us-military-fitbit-concerns
EDIT: Forgot the "Imagine what..." line, the edit added that back.
vk6zgo:
--- Quote from: blueskull on July 16, 2020, 02:54:41 am ---
--- Quote from: MK14 on July 16, 2020, 02:26:49 am ---Hopefully things will get peaceful, as time goes on, between China and the US. Trump may not be around (in power), after the November election.
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No, it's not Trump nor Xi. It's about national interest, and it is not even political.
The US has no problems with completely dictatorship countries (compared with China's collective/authoritative democracy) as long as they export interests to the US.
China happens to be the country which benefited from US's jump starting and doesn't want to keep exporting interest to the US.
And the US, or to certain degree, the Anglo Saxon ethnic, is rooted with colonialism, and you guys deeply believe by eradicating the old system in a new land you did a service to people living there.
And more importantly, the wealth of the I5 are accumulated in such a way.
So it's really a clash between I5's fundamental interest and China's national interest. It's nothing political, nothing presidential and nothing personal. It just has to happen regardless the fancy causes it is given.
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But Trump is quite erratic, so his actions must have some effect.
There is a normally a lot of difference between the public stance of politicians, & the interests of that country.
For instance, back in the '50s & '60s when both the PRC & the USSR were the "big baddies", with "Reds under the bed" rhetoric flowing freely in Australia, we were selling huge quantities of grain to both countries.
"Business is Business!"
Recently, Trump has decided that the WHO were "under the thumb of China" & started pressuring allies to support an inquiry, fairly obviously aimed at making China the scapegoat over COVID19.
That country, quite understandably, took offense.
Australia's PM, in public statements, backed the call, also pushing the "China bad" line.
When the actual official line came out, it was much more "wimpy", but the damage was done.
China increased tariffs on Australian barley, making it uneconomical for our farmers to export it, (or their factories to buy it).
All fair enough, so far, but then the PRC calmly turned around & bought their barley from the USA!
In Australia, we are quite used to our "Great & powerful friends" screwing us over, so it shouldn't have come as much of a surprise!
In a way, we seem to have gone back to the modus operandi of powerful States of the 18th & 19th centuries, where the reasons for wars were not ideological, but the perceived "best interests" of the existing power structures in those States.
After all, for most French people & English people life was not much different------- it really sucked in both countries, but during those centuries, thousands of people from both sides tried to kill each other, (& often succeeded), for little advantage.
AndyC_772:
--- Quote from: blueskull on July 16, 2020, 02:12:12 am ---so regardless intelligence must be encrypted peer to peer, and that encryption can be using a custom algorithm, rather than standard AES, making it harder to hack than the infrastructure-level encryption. So really, what is the point hacking switches and routers?
Telephone is another thing, it doesn't support peer to peer encryption. But that's already easy to tap, unless you encapsulate it over VOIP with a good cypher, which everyone does nowadays.
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I think the concern is more about continuity of service than data being siphoned off and sent outside the country.
Even if you can't read the contents of messages being sent over a network, you can still do severe damage to an enemy if you can cripple that network by shutting down key parts of it.
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