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BravoV:

--- Quote from: vk6zgo on July 16, 2020, 04:22:16 am ---Australia's PM, in public statements, backed the call, also pushing the "China bad" line.
When the actual official line came out, it was much more "wimpy", but the damage was done.

China increased tariffs on Australian barley, making it uneconomical for our farmers to export it, (or their factories to buy it).

All fair enough, so far, but then the PRC calmly turned around & bought their barley from the USA!

In Australia, we are quite used to our "Great & powerful friends" screwing us over, so it shouldn't have come as much of a surprise!
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I guess Ozzies are fully aware that it is the small price to pay serving the master, aren't they ? Hence, no complain heard at all.  :-//

Simon:

--- Quote from: blueskull on July 16, 2020, 02:12:12 am ---
--- Quote from: Rick Law on July 16, 2020, 01:25:10 am ---You can't have 4 countries sharing national intelligence securely and then have the 5th one relaying such information "in the clear", so to speak.

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Presumably no one is going to transmit clear text intelligence over the Internet. It's gotta be encrypted, and since Ethernet, which is the basis of modern Internet, or at least at the last mile, is not secure by design, anyone with any access to the same network can tap into your communication, so regardless intelligence must be encrypted peer to peer, and that encryption can be using a custom algorithm, rather than standard AES, making it harder to hack than the infrastructure-level encryption. So really, what is the point hacking switches and routers?

Telephone is another thing, it doesn't support peer to peer encryption. But that's already easy to tap, unless you encapsulate it over VOIP with a good cypher, which everyone does nowadays.

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All communications tend to be encrypted? but I think it's about making sure the network is secure.

AndyC_772:

--- Quote from: Rick Law on July 16, 2020, 04:01:27 am ---"Fitbit’s developer Strava - which considers itself "the social network for athletes" - regularly publishes a map of around 27 million people’s jogging routes. Last November, that global database of exercise “hotspots” was updated, what it revealed has sent a shiver down US Central Command’s spine."

Say you see a whole bunch of people jogging where there was nothing but sand 10 miles in every direction, you kind of figure out may be some unit is deployed there...

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As an interesting aside, said map is here and it's really interesting to zoom in on your local area to see which routes exist and are popular nearby. Since the Coronavirus lockdown, I've been using Strava to discover new cycle routes near my home and it's been a hugely valuable asset - and no, I'm not usually "social" in any way besides the odd forum post here and there. I keep my profile 'private', but there's no reason not to allow data from my rides to contribute to an overall map of how popular my local roads are.

Of course, it helps that I'm an ordinary member of the public, taking exercise by riding public roads that exist on published maps. If I were a government employee, in a location that's supposed to be secret or where I'm otherwise not supposed to be, I'd be monumentally stupid to track my movements with a GPS device and upload those movements to a social network.

Simon:
there was indeed a case of a soldier that ran his bases perimeter on strava :palm: I don't care for google knowing where I am and don't mind helping with traffic routing. Everyone should use google maps to drive.

I do rather tire of hearing people screaming blue murder about the government knowing things when they are telling the world already. Of course that network needs to remain impenetrable to outside people and access to the networks does not necessarily mean the data is at risk but the network itself.

vk6zgo:

--- Quote from: BravoV on July 16, 2020, 07:08:20 am ---
I guess Ozzies are fully aware that it is the small price to pay serving the master, aren't they ? Hence, no complain heard at all.  :-//

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Still the PRC didn't do anything the UK didn't do to us in the past, & neither the USA or PRC tested nuclear weapons in our country! ;D

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