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TimFox:

--- Quote from: Simon on July 16, 2020, 02:23:35 pm ---Both sides have been playing that game for years. Remember the Gift given to a US president by Russian school children that was a very clever radio transmitter with no actual electronic components,

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I believe that monitoring device was totally passive, a microwave resonant cavity with an acoustic diaphragm on one face.  I read that it was invented by L Terman, the inventor of the Theremin.  A remote transmitter and receiver detected the phase modulation.  I am just old enough to remember the US ambassador to the UN showing the wood carving of the Great Seal to the General Assembly as an excuse for the U2 incident.
SeanB:
Funny enough Huawei kit is pretty much the backbone of all cellular and wireless technology here in South Africa, from the cellphone batteries, to the actual base stations, to the antenna arrays that are connected to them. Also the most popular manufacturer of LTE routers, and I am using one, which is pretty solid as far as uptime and throughput, more losses due to the carriers losing connections due to power loss than anything else. I would have ot regularly restart it, because the mobile antenna it was connected to would lose it's backhaul, leaving the system in a locked state, and you could either reboot the router and thus get a reconnect when power was returned, or log in and turn off the WAN side, wait 30 seconds and turn it back on, getting the same result.

Power switch was faster though, and I should log in sometime and see just how many junk SMS's are in memory, because this device does have a valid mobile SIM number associated with it, and has VOIP POTS interface as well, though it is not set up, no real need to have another phone number, as I cut the landline cord last year. Will get a random one from an online seller if I need a number for some reason,
Domagoj T:

--- Quote from: blueskull on July 16, 2020, 02:12:12 am ---Presumably no one is going to transmit clear text intelligence over the Internet.
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I would assume that everybody in the business of intelligence would presume that all sensitive communication (or even literally all) can be (and is) intercepted, so if you don't want third party to know what you're chattering about, you absolutely have to encrypt. Not doing so is just dumb. So if your device is already encrypting everything, it should not matter if somebody has access to your router.
In any case, I see all this as overreacting, while at the same time ignoring the glaring spyware that is Windows, Android, Facebook et al.
floobydust:

--- Quote from: Simon on July 16, 2020, 02:41:07 pm ---Basically you only get a full sense of security if you make your own stuff. But governments change too often to enact such a long lasting policy. This would have benefits in that it employs people and builds local skills and gives a government real control over it's infrastructure. But of course in todays world of privatization that means that multinational corporations need to actually do as they are told rather than tell the government their demands which seems to be more the case these days.

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Nortel was a huge loss for Canada with their hacking by the chinese military coinciding with huawei having access to the servers, sunk them.
china's IP theft and corporate espionage has wiped out many competitors that need to exist for security and economic prosperity.

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/features/2020-07-01/did-china-steal-canada-s-edge-in-5g-from-nortel?srnd=premium-canada
https://www.cbc.ca/news/business/nortel-collapse-linked-to-chinese-hackers-1.1260591
SilverSolder:
One interesting part of this saga is that the UK intelligence community has specifically said that the risks around Huawei are "manageable".  But who listens to experts nowadays, anyway?  :D

It seems to me that this entire incident is all about what happens when a rising superpower (China) begins to look like a problem to an established superpower (USA), so the UK was forced to choose a side even though it is obviously more beneficial to the UK to play nice with both sides.   Smaller countries basically have to be "flexible" when the big boys are fighting!  :D
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