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| coppercone2:
actual corporate response: a speech with the phrase 'a few bad apples....' in it. |
| richnormand:
Also interesting, as reported in some news feeds, is that she is the one that requested a publication ban on this case..... https://www.bbc.com/news/business-46462858 |
| shteii01:
--- Quote from: TheSteve on December 06, 2018, 06:23:18 pm ---Huawei is not sold in the US. In Canada they sell phones and cell base station infrastructure. --- End quote --- I can buy their stuff in US from Newegg: https://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=ENE&DEPA=0&Order=BESTMATCH&Description=Huawei&N=-1&isNodeId=1 |
| vk6zgo:
--- Quote from: edpalmer42 on December 06, 2018, 08:40:07 pm --- --- Quote from: IanB on December 06, 2018, 07:15:22 pm --- --- Quote from: edpalmer42 on December 06, 2018, 06:50:02 pm ---it will be interesting to see how this plays out. The only way she could be extradited is if her alleged crime constituted a crime in Canada. --- End quote --- I think this is not how most extradition treaties are written. Someone can be extradited from country C to country A if country A asserts said person has committed a crime and can be charged under the laws of country A. Even if that is not a crime in country C. And even if said person has never set foot in country A. --- End quote --- Straight from the Canadian Department of Justice. No idea what happens in other countries. --- Quote ---In all cases, the conduct for which extradition is sought must be considered criminal in both the requesting country and in Canada. This is known as “dual criminality”. --- End quote --- https://www.justice.gc.ca/eng/cj-jp/emla-eej/tocan-aucan.html --- End quote --- Pretty much the same in Oz. An extradition hearing is held before a judge to determine the legality of the request. Obviously this becomes necessary because some countries have crimes on the books which are ridiculous to a modern society, like "sacrilege", " Lese' majeste", & various types of sexual behaviour or orientation |
| raptor1956:
--- Quote from: Kleinstein on December 06, 2018, 05:57:56 pm ---The arrest is supposed to be because of the US sanctions against Iran. The problem here is that the US wants the sanctions for political reasons, but does not want to pay the full prize. So they want other counties to also not sell stuff to Iran, though these companies are not under US jurisdiction. I don't know the details here - especially if Huawei is also sending stuff out from the US, or has offices in the US. So the logical solution for Canada would be if the court in Canada dismisses the case, if US law is not applicable. This might upset the big Donald however. Imagine a Arab country enforcing there trade sanctions against Israel also for US managers traveling to Europe. :popcorn: --- End quote --- It's my understanding that Huawei was selling US made goods to Iran in contravention of the restrictions. Ignoring for the moment the legitimacy of the US sanctions if Huawei sold US goods to Iran against the sanctions that's a problem and they will be held accountable. Now, as far as the sanctions are concerned the US is playing games here but then again so is Iran. In the immortal words of Rodnet King ... "Can't we all just get along". Sadly, getting along is not in the cards these days... Brian |
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