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raptor1956:

--- Quote from: Marco on December 09, 2018, 04:59:13 am ---The US makes it a personal liability crime for a foreign national to be part of a company breaking US sanctions? And Canada is cooperating with that bullshit?

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Yeah, it would be bullshit if anyone working for the company is vulnerable to prosecution, but since that isn't the case and she's being accused of active participation that would substantially change your argument.  We can argue whether or not the US sanctions are appropriate, but when a company knowingly sells US made goods in contravention to the sanctions you best not find yourself in a country that is likely to extradite you to the US for prosecution.  If she had participated in selling Chinese goods we wouldn't be talking about this.  In essence, the dealing of said materials is kind of like selling weapons on the black market -- Iran wanted it and likely paid more than retail for it.


Brian
raptor1956:

--- Quote from: edy on December 09, 2018, 05:04:59 am ---Now Canada stuck in the middle of this diplomatic sh!tstorm....

"China warns Canada of 'consequences' if it fails to release Huawei CFO"

https://www.theglobeandmail.com/world/article-china-warns-canada-of-consequences-if-it-fails-to-release-huawei-cfo/

The first line of the article... "China warned Canada on Saturday that there would be severe consequences if it did not immediately release Huawei Technologies Co Ltd's chief financial officer, calling the case 'extremely nasty'."   Apparently she faces charges of conspiracy to defraud multiple financial institutions, with a maximum sentence of 30 years for each charge!

So now because of this situation Canada is being sucked into this mess, and torn between China and US. What a disaster... will be very interesting to follow what happens, this could have major repercussions not only to trade.

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Yes, I mentioned this a few posts ago and the aggressiveness of the Chinese is reminiscent of the Russian effort to get Maria Butina out of the USA -- they made ominous threats but she's still in jail in the USA.  In fact, the very fact that the Chinese are being as aggressive leads me to believe there's more to this story then we've thus far be made aware of.  My guess is there's systematic sanctions violations taking place and China doesn't want that to be exposed.  Similarly, the US may see this as an opportunity to do just that -- expose it.


Brian
Marco:

--- Quote from: raptor1956 on December 09, 2018, 05:09:10 am ---best not find yourself in a country that is likely to extradite you to the US for prosecution.

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Which under Trump is apparently almost any non Russia/China aligned nation for any law the US wants to put on the book. With that level of isolation we are driving China and Russia into each other's arms, time for cold war 2.0.
Sredni:
Can someone enlighten me on the security risks of using Huawei gear for critical infrastructure?

From what I've read, I understand that if the military in China wanted Huawei to put dead rats in their hardware or software, they would have no choice but to comply. My question is: how hard is for the recipient of said hardware (and software) to find any dead rats?

Is it practically unfeasible due to the complexity of the systems (decapping and scrutinizing all chips to find suprises) and frequency of updates (reading all software in detail at every patch)? Closed source firmware and the such? Sheer quantity of code?
Or is there some other more cogent reason that escapes me?

I mean, it seems reasonable to get the pieces of any critical infrastructures from countries that are your military allies, so that they are the ones spying on you (Echelon, if I am not mistaken came out of the Five Eyes countries: USA UK NZ AU and CA), so that you can spare the effort of scrutinizing everything...

Shouldn't all critical infrastructure be open source, from the firmware up?
Bud:
What a great opportunity for Canada to cut chinese ties. Cant wait for it.  :-+
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