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| Marco:
--- Quote from: Sredni on December 09, 2018, 05:29:38 am ---Can someone enlighten me on the security risks of using Huawei gear for critical infrastructure? From what I've read, I understand that if the military in China wanted Huawei to put dead rats in their hardware or software, they would have no choice but to comply. My question is: how hard is for the recipient of said hardware (and software) to find any dead rats? --- End quote --- If you put in a plausibly deniable backdoor in the form of a remote exploit which lets you inject code and then exfiltrate data through some low bandwidth timing based side channels it's almost impossible to detect. Neither the backdoor, nor the exfiltration. That said we have a saying here, roughly translating to "as the host is he trusts his guests". If the US is getting paranoid about it, I'm sure they are doing it :) PS. it still takes a big conspiracy to put such things in place and information about such things can easily leak ... and proof of Huawei backdooring their hardware would have crippled their business, although in the end vague assertions is all it took. |
| beanflying:
--- Quote from: Bud on December 09, 2018, 05:30:01 am ---What a great opportunity for Canada to cut chinese ties. Cant wait for it. :-+ --- End quote --- It's a better opportunity to give Trump the middle finger for dragging your country into another international mess. You are being made a party to 'poor us' the big bad evil empire of X has imposed tariff barriers over our exports. This is pathetic as one of the largest imposers (outside of maybe the EU) of Tariffs is the US on other countries including yours and ours. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trans-Pacific_Partnership The last in a long line of BS US walkouts. Australia as a 'special best friend' of the US sees us tarred with all the negatives internationally and very very few positives. |
| raptor1956:
Hey, I'm no fan of Trump and the justification for reimposition of sanctions is also suspect, but the charge is that a Chinese firm sold US goods to Iran in spite of those sanctions. China was within there right to sell Chinese goods to Iran but not US goods. This isn't hard people. And again, the fact that China is playing hardball, or trying to, certainly raises the spectre that this is not a single transaction. Canada is not going to be invaded by China for lawfully holding someone charged with a crime. Brian |
| beanflying:
So if say company X from country Y brought ANY US component or item added it to their own and on sold it to Iran, North Korea etc then the US will 'uni laterally' decide to take action against whoever they like? Currently the UN is reducing and removing sanctions against Iran https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Nations_Security_Council_Resolution_2231 but the US has 'decided' they are in breach. Trump needs the political strongman points so lets keep it up after all the next election is under 2 years away and he needs to hide his own current local 'real' issues ..... :-- |
| Kleinstein:
--- Quote from: raptor1956 on December 09, 2018, 08:12:49 am ---Hey, I'm no fan of Trump and the justification for reimposition of sanctions is also suspect, but the charge is that a Chinese firm sold US goods to Iran in spite of those sanctions. China was within there right to sell Chinese goods to Iran but not US goods. This isn't hard people. And again, the fact that China is playing hardball, or trying to, certainly raises the spectre that this is not a single transaction. Canada is not going to be invaded by China for lawfully holding someone charged with a crime. Brian --- End quote --- It depends on the conditions / treaties how the US good were sold to the Chinese. If Intel sold there chips with just normal orders and paperwork, the buyer is free to sell them like he wants - US laws would no longer apply. If at all the US might go after the US company (e.g. Intel) who exported those items without proper permissions / treaties that oblige the buyer no to sell those parts to some countries. Even than it can be tricky on which law applies to those papers and what are the consequences. US companies are quite ignorant in claiming that US law should apply to license agreements - though in many cases that means they get the lesser of the US and foreign law if outside the US. The US are kind of fast in calling for trade sanctions, but are not really willing to pay the price, which are trade disadvantages for there companies. |
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