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Re: Trusting your data to MSFT -- ideas?
« Reply #25 on: May 22, 2019, 08:25:07 pm »
If you use a Mac, and only if you use a Mac, you can still trust Apple as iCloud on US servers is not banned from China. The Chinese servers of iCloud is only used if your Apple ID is registered with a Chinese payment method, otherwise it goes to the US servers.

Also Apple has a better track record with user data privacy AFAIK.

I certainly hope not, but who knows.

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Re: Trusting your data to MSFT -- ideas?
« Reply #26 on: May 22, 2019, 08:43:46 pm »
I certainly hope not, but who knows.

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I have my doubts if Apple is to be subjected in China. While Huawei don't employ a lot of people in the US, Apple has a lot of employees in China and the last thing China want to see is a huge unemployment wave. The employment issue in China is already problematic with the 996.icu protests.

However I do have the feeling that some other companies might be targeted, as they have way less of a presence here, have a proven track record of spying, and has a product lineup entirely fungible by Huawei products.
 

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Re: Trusting your data to MSFT -- ideas?
« Reply #27 on: May 22, 2019, 08:49:41 pm »
Most of Microsoft's telemetry data really seems to be used for improving their products. They use that data to see how people use their products, and which features they use. I haven't seen much evidence of that data being misused (yes, they put some personalized "ads" and downloads on your system). If you follow any of their development groups (in blogs, conferences, etc.) they discuss what they learn from the telemetry and how that guides them as they update/improve their products.

Google and Facebook, on the other hand, make their money almost exclusively from user data.
 

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Re: Trusting your data to MSFT -- ideas?
« Reply #28 on: May 22, 2019, 09:12:14 pm »
For file storage, just setup a local file server, for email, you can use a VPS and host your own.  Or heck even most shared hosting packages will also have email and probably arn't that likely to spy like the free email providers.   For search, use duckduckgo.    For browser use Firefox with an adblocker and privacy badger.

That should at least help in terms of privacy.  Of course Google, Facebook, government etc still know everything you do online, but the more you do offline, the less they know.
 

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« Reply #29 on: May 22, 2019, 09:14:57 pm »
Everyone: I'm not THAT paranoid. I'm just asking if MSFT will leak my data, because though MSFT never had such a record, some smaller internet companied did this and got caught red handed in the past, so I just want to know if the beta version of Edge is in good hands.

I have no problems with MSFT, but I need to know if the people managing this new product are well qualified enough as the rest of MSFT data handling department.
 

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Re: Trusting your data to MSFT -- ideas?
« Reply #30 on: May 22, 2019, 11:09:27 pm »
For file storage, just setup a local file server, for email, you can use a VPS and host your own.  Or heck even most shared hosting packages will also have email and probably arn't that likely to spy like the free email providers.   For search, use duckduckgo.    For browser use Firefox with an adblocker and privacy badger.

That should at least help in terms of privacy.  Of course Google, Facebook, government etc still know everything you do online, but the more you do offline, the less they know.
If you set up a server, make sure you know what you're doing. Bumbling about yourself isn't going to lead to safer data than having a big party hosting it securely.
 

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Re: Trusting your data to MSFT -- ideas?
« Reply #31 on: May 22, 2019, 11:22:58 pm »
If you set up a server, make sure you know what you're doing. Bumbling about yourself isn't going to lead to safer data than having a big party hosting it securely.

100% that. Best advice on the Internet in this space.
 

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Re: Trusting your data to MSFT -- ideas?
« Reply #32 on: May 23, 2019, 03:09:29 am »

Why intelligent people apply for work with these suss organizations to do the real work for them,

and then whinge later about getting shafted or put on some frenemy 'watch list' escapes me  :-//

This is why these corporatons become too big and out of control, eventually taken over and run by suited psychos in ivory towers, where the air is thinner.

Who needs all that cloak and dagger crap anyway just for a wage,

or does working for rich creeps they know nothing about give some dudes woodies, and or bragging rights ammo at upnose parties or something.  :blah:


FWIW: how hard is it to have all your passwords in a text file or some digi note thing, 
and copy and paste manually ?
What's more important in a security situation?  ease and speed or 'security' ?

My browser does what I command it to, and only that,

no autoshyte anything!  ;D

 

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Re: Trusting your data to MSFT -- ideas?
« Reply #33 on: May 23, 2019, 08:00:06 am »
Most people don’t give a shit however intelligent they are and just look at the pay cheque. And for everyone else there is comfortable entrapment. I actually interviewed at google in 2012 for a permanent SRE position and the place was like a Scientologists lair and I was undergoing a psychometric audit not an interview. Despite an offer, I decided to go solo contract instead which I don’t regret.

One thing you have to consider with large companies and your data is bad people float to the top of the septic tank.
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Re: Trusting your data to MSFT -- ideas?
« Reply #34 on: May 23, 2019, 08:01:32 am »
BTW, update on Canary. It stopped syncing :palm: after a macOS update.
 

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« Reply #35 on: May 23, 2019, 08:33:46 am »
BTW, update on Canary. It stopped syncing :palm: after a macOS update.

Do you have a back-up browser? Hopefully that's just a temporary issue. It's one of the few reasons I still remember all my passwords manually, sync issues with 2 different PC's I use.
 

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« Reply #36 on: May 23, 2019, 08:36:37 am »
BTW, update on Canary. It stopped syncing :palm: after a macOS update.

Do you have a back-up browser? Hopefully that's just a temporary issue. It's one of the few reasons I still remember all my passwords manually, sync issues with 2 different PC's I use.

Chrome.
 


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