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I despise the modern phones and internet
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tom66:

--- Quote from: Sherlock Holmes on December 14, 2022, 12:47:41 pm ---
--- Quote from: tom66 on December 14, 2022, 10:47:27 am ---Here's the fun thing eti: you don't have to use one of these phones.  You don't have to spend £1,200 on a phone.  Nobody is compelling you to do so.  If you want the bare minimum phone, a £20 or so phone can be acquired from most good online websites, which will ONLY do phone calls and texts.  Other people clearly enjoy and appreciate these devices, so why not let them live their lives?  It would be very authoritarian - something you have rallied against - to tell people what they can do with their devices, when that behaviour really hurts no one.

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Replace "modern phone" with assault rifle, and you might notice something about your post.

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Very incendiary -- smartphones generally don't hurt anyone.  Even if you throw them at people.
Black Phoenix:

--- Quote from: tom66 on December 14, 2022, 11:19:35 am ---It's funny, I have the exact opposite opinion.  A great deal of people on this forum, who shall remain unnamed, have strong views reminiscent of the Luddites.  If we were listening to these people we'd still be using horses to pull carts.  It's really odd to me that engineers would be so critical of the very field they are often involved in, you don't hear too many medical doctors arguing for leeches and trepanning still.

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I was thinking I was the only one with that perception...
tooki:

--- Quote from: Black Phoenix on December 14, 2022, 01:04:43 pm ---
--- Quote from: tom66 on December 14, 2022, 11:19:35 am ---It's funny, I have the exact opposite opinion.  A great deal of people on this forum, who shall remain unnamed, have strong views reminiscent of the Luddites.  If we were listening to these people we'd still be using horses to pull carts.  It's really odd to me that engineers would be so critical of the very field they are often involved in, you don't hear too many medical doctors arguing for leeches and trepanning still.

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I was thinking I was the only one with that perception...

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Definitely not!
Sherlock Holmes:

--- Quote from: tom66 on December 14, 2022, 01:02:43 pm ---
--- Quote from: Sherlock Holmes on December 14, 2022, 12:47:41 pm ---
--- Quote from: tom66 on December 14, 2022, 10:47:27 am ---Here's the fun thing eti: you don't have to use one of these phones.  You don't have to spend £1,200 on a phone.  Nobody is compelling you to do so.  If you want the bare minimum phone, a £20 or so phone can be acquired from most good online websites, which will ONLY do phone calls and texts.  Other people clearly enjoy and appreciate these devices, so why not let them live their lives?  It would be very authoritarian - something you have rallied against - to tell people what they can do with their devices, when that behaviour really hurts no one.

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Replace "modern phone" with assault rifle, and you might notice something about your post.

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Very incendiary -- smartphones generally don't hurt anyone.  Even if you throw them at people.

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I don't see it as incendiary, its a rather reasonable analogy, not perfect but reasonable.

Guns don't hurt anyone, it is people who hurt people. The point I'm trying to convey is simply that modern phone addiction brings with it many problems. Modern phone ubiquity increases the risk of violence and desensitizing violence. Children can easily use their phone or comparable gadget to watch violence, rape and torture. Look at what the masses do now when someone is hurt or attacked, they gather around in dozens filming, trying to get a "good" shot of someone dying or bleeding to death.

There are victims too in bathtubs, people have died, families have lost loved one because of the addictive nature these devices have for many people.


NiHaoMike:

--- Quote from: Sherlock Holmes on December 14, 2022, 01:35:22 pm ---Modern phone ubiquity increases the risk of violence and desensitizing violence. Children can easily use their phone or comparable gadget to watch violence, rape and torture.
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That long predates smartphones, let alone smartphones cheap enough for children. I think it's insane how we should protect children from women showing a bit too much skin yet it's OK for cartoons to show violence and to let them play with toy guns.

I suppose in your view, those buying up all the cheap phones for crypto mining are doing a favor for all the children.

--- Quote ---There are victims too in bathtubs, people have died, families have lost loved one because of the addictive nature these devices have for many people.

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Those stupid enough to try charging a phone in the bathtub deserve the Darwin Award.
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