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| SiliconWizard:
--- Quote from: tom66 on December 14, 2022, 10:47:27 am ---Here's the fun thing eti: you don't have to use one of these phones. --- End quote --- Which is, unfortunately, and increasingly, a wrong statement. More and more services now are requiring a smartphone, and this is just the beginning. Living without one will soon mean living completely outside of society. If you call that having a choice, I don't think it's a fair one. --- Quote from: tom66 on December 14, 2022, 10:47:27 am ---You don't have to spend £1,200 on a phone. --- End quote --- That is quite right. A $100 to $200 device these days is all you need. --- Quote from: tom66 on December 14, 2022, 10:47:27 am ---Nobody is compelling you to do so. If you want the bare minimum phone, a £20 or so phone can be acquired from most good online websites, which will ONLY do phone calls and texts. --- End quote --- As I mentioned, this is getting increasingly limiting even to access basic services these days. --- Quote from: tom66 on December 14, 2022, 10:47:27 am ---Other people clearly enjoy and appreciate these devices, so why not let them live their lives? It would be very authoritarian - something you have rallied against - to tell people what they can do with their devices, when that behaviour really hurts no one. --- End quote --- Surely preventing people from using such devices would be stupid and counter-productive. OTOH, making those devices almost mandatory for using basic services, as I mentioned, is more than questionable, and it's where we are heading, so that part I despise. And do those devices help many people become more stupid, more dependent, more emotional, waste their time, yes, absolutely. |
| Gyro:
--- Quote from: eti on December 14, 2022, 11:14:41 am ---It’s strange that I’ve posted this same thing on a couple of my social media outlets, all of which have received likes and positive feedback and INTELLIGENT discussion (and not a single sniff of “you’re ranting”) I feel EEVblog has an infestation of toxic, angry, insular loners with no outlet except to attack people with whom they don’t agree. ... --- End quote --- If you've posted the same thing on your 'social media outlets' and received a more positive result, it's probably a good indication that you should restrict these sort of topics to those, rather than eevblog, which is primarily an education / design / development / repair / production focussed place. |
| james_s:
--- Quote from: Bud on December 14, 2022, 07:09:23 pm ---Many of the features in your list are only good as long as you are within a cell tower coverage, and the rest are labor intensive (too many menus/button push) compare to their classic counterparts. Ecit: home automation controllers- you put yourself in the mercy of the vendor in the cloud as to when you are going to lose the service. GPS - eats the battery like there is no tomorrow. Good luck getting out of the woods before the battery is dead. --- End quote --- I don't remember the last time I was somewhere without cell tower coverage, I do keep a classic GPS navigator in my car in case I do find myself in that situation but I haven't used it in years. I normally keep a power bank in my pack that I take with me most places so I can always recharge my phone if I need to. I also have a very old Garmin GPS that runs for weeks on 4 AA batteries that I keep in my hiking pack but again I haven't used it in years, I tend to stay on the trail. I don't think most people find themselves lost in the woods. I have no idea what you're talking about by the other stuff being labor intensive, it's literally pick up phone, tap the home button to wake it up, tap the icon for camera, music, etc as all of the frequently used stuff is right there on the home screen. I don't understand the problem you're describing, it works for me. :-// No, I don't. I use Home Assistant which is open source, my setup is entirely self contained, the app simply connects to a dynamic DNS address that points to my own network. I have a mix of probably 8 different vendors hardware that all works seemlessly together with HA running on a RPi 3b, I set it up a couple years ago and once running it has just worked. |
| james_s:
--- Quote from: Gyro on December 14, 2022, 07:31:45 pm ---If you've posted the same thing on your 'social media outlets' and received a more positive result, it's probably a good indication that you should restrict these sort of topics to those, rather than eevblog, which is primarily an education / design / development / repair / production focussed place. --- End quote --- Social media nudges people into curated echo chambers of like-minded folks, it amplifies the positive responses only and leads people to believe that whatever their view on something represents the vast majority of the population. I see it as a huge problem that has resulted in increasingly extreme polarization we see today. |
| james_s:
--- Quote from: SiliconWizard on December 14, 2022, 07:31:16 pm ---Which is, unfortunately, and increasingly, a wrong statement. More and more services now are requiring a smartphone, and this is just the beginning. Living without one will soon mean living completely outside of society. If you call that having a choice, I don't think it's a fair one. --- End quote --- But that's mostly because the vast majority of the population prefers to operate this way. I don't want to walk into my bank and talk to a teller, I want to pull out my smartphone, open my banking app and manage my money that way. I suspect this same debate occurred back when cars first started to gain mass adoption, or electricity, or landline telephones or radio, or pretty much anything else. The majority of the population flocked to these things, making it increasingly difficult to get by without them, and a small portion of the population clinging desperately to the old ways of doing things complained bitterly, but progress marches on. If you insist on marching to the beat of a different drum, life is more difficult and complicated. It's swimming against the current. |
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