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I despise the modern phones and internet
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Red Squirrel:

--- Quote from: thm_w on December 15, 2022, 12:43:49 am ---
--- Quote from: eti on December 14, 2022, 10:13:38 am ---

--- Quote from: Red Squirrel on December 15, 2022, 12:24:43 am ---I agree.  I also hate how everything seems to revolve around needing a smartphone now too.  I see a lot of basic things like security cameras and even internet routers that require an app just to configure it.  Of course you also need to setup an account and all that BS.  Pisses me off so much, it doesn't have to be that way at all.  It would be possible to have smart phones without all the strings attached but then they couldn't sell our info!  It's all about spying on us at the end of the day.  That, and planned obsolescence. They can render your product obsolete by simply ceasing to update the app.   You'll own nothing and you'll be happy.

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Old school wired cameras still exist, and they can be set up on the device themselves (hikvision, dahua, etc.).
Routers, maybe some cheap ones? Any major brand should have a standard web interface.

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Sure but they are getting harder and harder to find so when you search 90% of results are now is this app/cloud stuff you have to filter through, and often you don't find out you need an app until after you already bought it.   I was looking at a Trendnet one that looked promising and was available here in Canada, only to read the doc and find out you need an app.   I'm in Canada so it's even harder to get stuff here as we just don't have as good of an online retail selection as the states does so it's slim pickings for everything.  Have not been able to find a place that sells Hikvision for example as they do have good reviews.   I know there's Amazon but lot of fakes/hacked ones on there so I tend to avoid Amazon for stuff like that. 

Routers are a new one to me but I did run into that and I fear it will become a trend too, was setting up internet for someone and that ISP's setup was super proprietary and you had to download and use an app just to configure the modem/router.    I run a custom rom on my phone so couldn't do it so had to use the customer's phone.  Super annoying that they just assume everyone has a regular phone. Not to mention how you're stuck relying on highly proprietary software/environment and your whole setup could be rendered obsolete if they stop updating it when you get a new phone.

Drones, action cameras etc are bad too.   It seems to be a trend with so many devices now.
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Red Squirrel:
(my first quote messed up and it reverts back when I edit, trying again here)



--- Quote from: eti on December 14, 2022, 10:13:38 am ---

--- Quote from: Red Squirrel on December 15, 2022, 12:24:43 am ---I agree.  I also hate how everything seems to revolve around needing a smartphone now too.  I see a lot of basic things like security cameras and even internet routers that require an app just to configure it.  Of course you also need to setup an account and all that BS.  Pisses me off so much, it doesn't have to be that way at all.  It would be possible to have smart phones without all the strings attached but then they couldn't sell our info!  It's all about spying on us at the end of the day.  That, and planned obsolescence. They can render your product obsolete by simply ceasing to update the app.   You'll own nothing and you'll be happy.

--- End quote ---

Old school wired cameras still exist, and they can be set up on the device themselves (hikvision, dahua, etc.).
Routers, maybe some cheap ones? Any major brand should have a standard web interface.

--- End quote ---

Sure but they are getting harder and harder to find so when you search 90% of results are now is this app/cloud stuff you have to filter through, and often you don't find out you need an app until after you already bought it.   I was looking at a Trendnet one that looked promising and was available here in Canada, only to read the doc and find out you need an app.   I'm in Canada so it's even harder to get stuff here as we just don't have as good of an online retail selection as the states does so it's slim pickings for everything.  Have not been able to find a place that sells Hikvision for example as they do have good reviews.   I know there's Amazon but lot of fakes/hacked ones on there so I tend to avoid Amazon for stuff like that. 

Routers are a new one to me but I did run into that and I fear it will become a trend too, was setting up internet for someone and that ISP's setup was super proprietary and you had to download and use an app just to configure the modem/router.    I run a custom rom on my phone so couldn't do it so had to use the customer's phone.  Super annoying that they just assume everyone has a regular phone. Not to mention how you're stuck relying on highly proprietary software/environment and your whole setup could be rendered obsolete if they stop updating it when you get a new phone.

Drones, action cameras etc are bad too.   It seems to be a trend with so many devices now.
Kasper:

--- Quote from: thm_w on December 16, 2022, 01:09:22 am ---
OK and if you get fresh air, exercise, eat healthy, THEN read a book for 30min, you'd still get the same headache?

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If I do all that, I treat myself with beer not books ;)

Aside from a few migraines, it's not boolean.  The more healthy choices I make, the better I feel and vica versa.  Generally, as soon as I look at a page full of words, I start feeling it.

I guess I developed a distaste for books in school and I've never found a reason to challenge it.  Datasheets, forums and news is enough reading for me and I prefer to read all 3 on my phone. 
eti:

--- Quote from: Kasper on December 16, 2022, 03:57:13 am ---
--- Quote from: thm_w on December 16, 2022, 01:09:22 am ---
OK and if you get fresh air, exercise, eat healthy, THEN read a book for 30min, you'd still get the same headache?

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If I do all that, I treat myself with beer not books ;)

Aside from a few migraines, it's not boolean.  The more healthy choices I make, the better I feel and vica versa.  Generally, as soon as I look at a page full of words, I start feeling it.

How does one develop a "distaste" for books? They're paper with words on - words are words, and the paper is LESS harmful to your eyes than a backlit screen is. I am not disputing that you do not like them, it just doesn't seem to make a lot of sense in my humble opinion, but then it makes sense to you, and you're the one who knows what it means to you, which is what matters; so if you could explain a little more, maybe we could help :)

I guess I developed a distaste for books in school and I've never found a reason to challenge it.  Datasheets, forums and news is enough reading for me and I prefer to read all 3 on my phone.

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You realise that staring at a backlit screen for hours, causes significantly greater eye strain than a piece of paper lit with ambient or directed, front light? You are literally shining white LEDs into your eyes; no wonder you get headaches!
Kasper:

--- Quote from: eti on December 16, 2022, 04:23:03 am ---
--- Quote from: Kasper on December 16, 2022, 03:57:13 am ---
--- Quote from: thm_w on December 16, 2022, 01:09:22 am ---
OK and if you get fresh air, exercise, eat healthy, THEN read a book for 30min, you'd still get the same headache?

--- End quote ---

If I do all that, I treat myself with beer not books ;)

Aside from a few migraines, it's not boolean.  The more healthy choices I make, the better I feel and vica versa.  Generally, as soon as I look at a page full of words, I start feeling it.

I guess I developed a distaste for books in school and I've never found a reason to challenge it.  Datasheets, forums and news is enough reading for me and I prefer to read all 3 on my phone.

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You realise that staring at a backlit screen for hours, causes significantly greater eye strain than a piece of paper lit with ambient or directed, front light? You are literally shining white LEDs into your eyes; no wonder you get headaches!

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I've had headaches since before phones had screens.  For me, the most bothersome part of reading is picking words out from a large block of text.  Books have that, phones, not so much.

I adjust the backlight often.  Usually between dim and very dim, unless there is bright ambient light.

Funny coincidence, I just saw an article about people shining green lights into eyes to reduce chronic pain, including headaches.  Seems counter intuitive to me.
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