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| digsys:
One "unwritten?" law is firewood removal. You legally chop down a (dangerous) tree then stack it all along the footpath nature strip or edge of your property. This has always been considered to mean ... take it, it's FREE. It's usually gone quite quickly. I've NEVER heard of anyone / any council kicking up a stink about that. So what's the difference if it's junk? |
| EEVblog:
--- Quote from: digsys on April 06, 2013, 12:40:42 am ---I've NEVER heard of anyone / any council kicking up a stink about that. So what's the difference if it's junk? --- End quote --- They don't, it's quite rare to hear that. What we have in that particular case cited is likely some cop with nothing better to do, citing some "law" that's probably never been tested in court in this aspect, and probably one local council that's had a whinge about it. Once again, charged != convicted. There are many ifs and buts to this. What if the original owner of the goods didn't know his goods "became the councils property" and didn't agree to that? What if the owner intended for the good to become public domain? Is the council really the legal owner of the goods? Has the council effectively stolen from and profited from the owners? That council land is also public land, how does that influence thing? Many councils have programs that actively encourage recycling and minimisation of rubbish that goes the landfill, so was the guy charged simply doing his bit in good faith to live up to that? And there are probably half a dozen other aspects to it. Until a law (esp local council ones) has been tested in court, and precedents set, especially in cases like this that have many aspects to it, they don't mean much. But newspapers, and cops, and people like to go around citing various things that may or not actually apply. |
| cwalex:
--- Quote from: EEVblog on April 06, 2013, 02:13:58 am --- --- Quote from: digsys on April 06, 2013, 12:40:42 am ---I've NEVER heard of anyone / any council kicking up a stink about that. So what's the difference if it's junk? --- End quote --- They don't, it's quite rare to hear that. What we have in that particular case cited is likely some cop with nothing better to do, citing some "law" that's probably never been tested in court in this aspect, and probably one local council that's had a whinge about it. Once again, charged != convicted. There are many ifs and buts to this. What if the original owner of the goods didn't know his goods "became the councils property" and didn't agree to that? What if the owner intended for the good to become public domain? Is the council really the legal owner of the goods? Has the council effectively stolen from and profited from the owners? That council land is also public land, how does that influence thing? Many councils have programs that actively encourage recycling and minimisation of rubbish that goes the landfill, so was the guy charged simply doing his bit in good faith to live up to that? And there are probably half a dozen other aspects to it. Until a law (esp local council ones) has been tested in court, and precedents set, especially in cases like this that have many aspects to it, they don't mean much. But newspapers, and cops, and people like to go around citing various things that may or not actually apply. --- End quote --- Knocking on your neighbours door and asking if they mind you taking something is the right thing to do and not making a mess on your neighbours verge is also the right thing to do IMO. |
| EEVblog:
--- Quote from: cwalex on April 06, 2013, 02:39:03 am ---Knocking on your neighbours door and asking if they mind you taking something is the right thing to do and not making a mess on your neighbours verge is also the right thing to do IMO. --- End quote --- Of course, that's part of the etiquette. Those who make a mess spoil it for everyone, and lead to attempts at silly laws to stop it all. |
| ftransform:
dude, just rent a fucking truck and take the whole dumpster. I don't understand why a complicated machine should ever be destroyed. It can always inspire someone or be used by someone with less capability then the previous owner. IMO destroying that shit is like burning books, it inhibits the progress of society. Years of peoples lives went into designing and assembling that gear. And now some fucking bureaucrat is wasting it because of some retarded ass legislation.... >:( |
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