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I Failed A Training Test...In A Class That Has Become A Joke
amyk:
--- Quote from: LaserSteve on June 11, 2021, 03:43:24 pm ---Instruction during this emergency period of time has gotten sloppy. The fact that the cheating is tolerated is because the Instructor is likely rated on student passage, not overall student performance.
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When grades and student-written evaluations are the only measures of success, it's no wonder they'll be gamed. The students won't complain when the material is too easy, neither will the instructor when the class average is much higher than it should be. The latter gets praised for being an "excellent teacher", the former get to brag about how smart they are (or how nice the teacher is.) Meanwhile the instructors who actually care are the ones who receive the most negative reviews from their students and have much lower passing rates.
Zero999:
--- Quote from: dunkemhigh on June 12, 2021, 01:55:49 am ---
--- Quote ---Unless the instructor was doing that in multiple classes
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Bingo!
You surely haven't failed to notice the recent social cancelling of alleged pervs. They used to get away with it because the victims were discouraged from complaining, or they just thought nothing would happen. But then one very public complaint would open the floodgates and pretty much no-one is immune from being held to account now (except Teflon Don).
Maybe this instructor wasn't doing it all over; maybe he was. There is a guaranteed way not to find out.
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But it's gone too far the other way: a person makes false accusations about someone and it ruins their carreer.
--- Quote from: amyk on June 12, 2021, 04:37:36 am ---
--- Quote from: LaserSteve on June 11, 2021, 03:43:24 pm ---Instruction during this emergency period of time has gotten sloppy. The fact that the cheating is tolerated is because the Instructor is likely rated on student passage, not overall student performance.
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When grades and student-written evaluations are the only measures of success, it's no wonder they'll be gamed. The students won't complain when the material is too easy, neither will the instructor when the class average is much higher than it should be. The latter gets praised for being an "excellent teacher", the former get to brag about how smart they are (or how nice the teacher is.) Meanwhile the instructors who actually care are the ones who receive the most negative reviews from their students and have much lower passing rates.
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It sounds like you're talking about grade inflation. Hopefully external verification bodies will clamp down on that. If the instructor passes too many people, it should trigger an investigation. The verification body should interview a random sample of students who've passed the course. They should ask them questions, they should know the answers to, if they've passed the course, with the relevant grade. If a student is found to be completely clueless, the instructor should be investigated.
PlainName:
--- Quote ---But it's gone too far the other way: a person makes false accusations about someone and it ruins their carreer.
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Only if it's sexual. Or race.
For now, anyway.
Zero999:
--- Quote from: dunkemhigh on June 15, 2021, 10:50:17 am ---
--- Quote ---But it's gone too far the other way: a person makes false accusations about someone and it ruins their carreer.
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Only if it's sexual. Or race.
For now, anyway.
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That's worse, since it will lead to the situation when minorities can threaten people with false accusations, to get what they want. In the long run, minorities will suffer more, because it would give employers the perverse incentive to higher white people, as they won't play the race card. I can't see this ending well.
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