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Re: Naomi SexyCyborg Wu's Patreon Shut Down by VICE
« Reply #75 on: April 05, 2018, 02:54:34 am »
I have only heard of Naomi from a previous EEVBlog thread and watched a video or two... but I even mentioned previously that I felt awkward and uncomfortable (as a heterosexual married male) to look at it for any "electronic" learning content. It was NSFW for sure. While I'm not one to judge and think she can do anything she wants, if we are to be realistic here (not idealistic), you must admit that her fashion choices probably did contribute to her popularity more so than the electronic education aspects of her videos.

Yes, no point pretending her success and popularity is not almost entirely due to her looks, and she knows it. And she goes out of her way to showcase that and readily admits it.
Nothing wrong with that of course, go for it, more power to her, it's worked well for her and allowed her to capitalise on that exposure and move in other direction if she so desires. And the media love it of course, it's clickbait from tech heaven.
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Re: Naomi SexyCyborg Wu's Patreon Shut Down by VICE
« Reply #76 on: April 05, 2018, 03:02:45 am »
Dave is completely correct as to PewDiePie's size being why they hate them, but I do not believe that says everything. I believe they hate him because they can't control him.

Yep, precisely.

It's not dissimilar to doing equipment reviews in our engineering space. Manufacturers don't like that they cannot control video bloggers opinions. They don't like that they can't review content before it gets published etc.
But they have had to resign themselves to the fact that they can't control individuals like they could (partly) influence the magazines of days gone by that they advertised in, it's a different game now and they have had to adapt if they want the benefits of the platform and exposure.

Youtube is just too big and the individual has the power now.
Heck, I'm a nobody in the Youtube world and even some of my niche videos get more views than some mainstream general interest TV shows that cost hundreds of thousands of dollars or more to produce.
PewDiePie and others can switch on a webcam and reach 10's of millions of people instantly, figures the mainstream media can't even imagine.
It's a new world.
 

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Re: Naomi SexyCyborg Wu's Patreon Shut Down by VICE
« Reply #77 on: April 05, 2018, 04:03:15 am »
So let's get a few things straight.....

She makes a brand image almost entirely based on sexuality, but that's off limits to talk about.

She is quite to happy to play the special pixie faerie woman in tech struggling against all the big bad males, while simultaneously her financial success is the result of raking in money from legions of thirsty male patreon users.

She is also quite happy to play up the victim angle, then engages in dirty tactics like doxxing and using her fanbase to harass others.

OK
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Re: Naomi SexyCyborg Wu's Patreon Shut Down by VICE
« Reply #78 on: April 05, 2018, 05:05:01 am »
So let's get a few things straight.....

She makes a brand image almost entirely based on sexuality, but that's off limits to talk about.
A college friend of mine (who shall remain anonymous) also "showed herself off" (to an even greater extent than Naomi ever did) to get Bitcoin back in the day. Would it be OK to ask her just how she showed herself on camera?
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She is quite to happy to play the special pixie faerie woman in tech struggling against all the big bad males, while simultaneously her financial success is the result of raking in money from legions of thirsty male patreon users.
I don't think she has a problem with guys in general, just misogynists. She cast me in a very positive light the first time I used my miners to help her.
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She is also quite happy to play up the victim angle, then engages in dirty tactics like doxxing and using her fanbase to harass others.

OK
The followers doing counter attacks are not entirely controllable from her side. If a real life friend of yours was under attack, you would try to do something to stop the attackers, right?
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Re: Naomi SexyCyborg Wu's Patreon Shut Down by VICE
« Reply #79 on: April 05, 2018, 05:47:56 am »
She cast me in a very positive light the first time I used my miners to help her.

Isn't that obvious that she will do that and be nice to anyone who did pay donate too ?
 
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Re: Naomi SexyCyborg Wu's Patreon Shut Down by VICE
« Reply #80 on: April 05, 2018, 06:08:00 am »
She cast me in a very positive light the first time I used my miners to help her.

Isn't that obvious that she will do that and be nice to anyone who did pay donate too ?
Above and beyond what she normally does, as in dedicate a post about me including pictures that I told her she can use.
https://twitter.com/RealSexyCyborg/status/932136250454163458
You could say I "bought" a badge of honor to display on my Facebook, which I used to get positive responses from my other friends. It really does make mining feel like a game and every part of the setup now has a special story attached. Several of my friends who work at or used to work at Qualcomm were very happy to see how I was putting Snapdragon processors to good use. (Side note: dragons have special meaning in Chinese culture.)
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Re: Naomi SexyCyborg Wu's Patreon Shut Down by VICE
« Reply #81 on: April 05, 2018, 06:36:41 am »
If a real life friend of yours was under attack, you would try to do something to stop the attackers, right?

But what if the friend did something wrong or questionable to put them in that position?
In that case if it was my friend, I'd advise them on the best way to exit the predicament and prevent it from happening again, rather than focus on stopping the attacks by counter-attcking.
Sometimes a tactical withdrawal is the best solution.

As much as I like and support Naomi, I'm afraid she isn't an innocent victim here. So I for one am trying to help her by explaining better ways she could have handled this and hence help prevent this sort of stuff happening in the future. I hope she learns from it.
 

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Re: Naomi SexyCyborg Wu's Patreon Shut Down by VICE
« Reply #82 on: April 05, 2018, 07:31:25 am »
So let's get a few things straight.....

She makes a brand image almost entirely based on sexuality, but that's off limits to talk about.
A college friend of mine (who shall remain anonymous) also "showed herself off" (to an even greater extent than Naomi ever did) to get Bitcoin back in the day. Would it be OK to ask her just how she showed herself on camera?

So, interviewing a webcam model and asking them to talk about the specifics of their trade? Sounds completely normal.

The only problem in this instance is that something is someone is mixing two genres, ie softcore/modelling with technology, relying on the former as the primary means of success AND the primary means of defining their identity and persona, then they insist that only the latter is permissible as a topic of discussion. Not just in articles either.

Congratulations on getting a shout-out from her. Must feel good. But it's important to be honest with oneself whether that would feel as good if she wasn't so pretty and popular, or whether she'd be validating you if didn't provide utility to her. If you check out her comments sections on videos, there are hundred of guys hoping for a response from her. Not intending anything as a personal attack either, its just very obvious what is happening when you take a step back from the situation.
 
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Re: Naomi SexyCyborg Wu's Patreon Shut Down by VICE
« Reply #83 on: April 05, 2018, 07:39:34 am »
Unless I'm mistaken, my comment on Naomi's video has been deleted.
I asked is she had any comment on the doxing claim and that being the reason why per Patreon was shut down.
I do hope she's not deleting comments from people asking legitimate questions.
 

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Re: Naomi SexyCyborg Wu's Patreon Shut Down by VICE
« Reply #84 on: April 05, 2018, 08:12:13 am »
I also learned about her from a previous thread. I find her videos extremely difficult to watch.

From the interview I don;t believe VICE did something that isn;t VICE. I believe her that they did something really bad. The way she reacted though...

I also believe the title should be changed.

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Re: Naomi SexyCyborg Wu's Patreon Shut Down by VICE
« Reply #85 on: April 05, 2018, 08:15:15 am »
I also believe the title should be changed.

It does seem that her Patreon was shut down by Patreon and not by VICE?
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Re: Naomi SexyCyborg Wu's Patreon Shut Down by VICE
« Reply #86 on: April 05, 2018, 08:25:15 am »
Yes. ?cording to Patreon's twitts. At least a question mark at the end.

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Re: Naomi SexyCyborg Wu's Patreon Shut Down by VICE
« Reply #87 on: April 05, 2018, 08:42:14 am »
It does seem that her Patreon was shut down by Patreon and not by VICE?

Yes. Presumably the Vice person who was doxed complained to Patreon, and Patreon have a zero tolerance policy on this so they shut down her account.
If that was me and I did the doxing by accident I'd be apologising profusely to all and sundry trying to get my Patreon reinstated. But AFAIK Naomi has made no comment at all on the doxing.
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Re: Naomi SexyCyborg Wu's Patreon Shut Down by VICE
« Reply #88 on: April 05, 2018, 08:51:07 am »
I do hope she's not deleting comments from people asking legitimate questions.
it happened anywhere including err.... anyway if you (not dave) think its informative, enjoy...



and on to the test...



and err try to save them locally in case it got deleted by the VICE mr president... well anyone is free to delete this if its just nonsense... ymmv...

ps: i wonder what song in the 2nd link its kinda cool if anyone can tell me i'll appreciate it.
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Re: Naomi SexyCyborg Wu's Patreon Shut Down by VICE
« Reply #89 on: April 05, 2018, 09:32:39 am »
LoL. Are most of the videos like the ones above? :P :P :P

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Re: Naomi SexyCyborg Wu's Patreon Shut Down by VICE
« Reply #90 on: April 05, 2018, 09:44:34 am »
This thread is never about Naomi, its all about the OP's obsesion for Chinese chicks.

Hint : Use forum's advanced search, search for posts made by the OP and the item to search for is "Tiffany Yep" ... and take a clue from the oldest date of the post found and approx. the total posts found by the search, it has been almost a decade.

Also look at the OP's profile picture.  ;)

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Re: Naomi SexyCyborg Wu's Patreon Shut Down by VICE
« Reply #91 on: April 05, 2018, 09:53:55 am »
She cast me in a very positive light the first time I used my miners to help her.

Isn't that obvious that she will do that and be nice to anyone who did pay donate too ?
Above and beyond what she normally does, as in dedicate a post about me including pictures that I told her she can use.
https://twitter.com/RealSexyCyborg/status/932136250454163458
You could say I "bought" a badge of honor to display on my Facebook, which I used to get positive responses from my other friends. It really does make mining feel like a game and every part of the setup now has a special story attached. Several of my friends who work at or used to work at Qualcomm were very happy to see how I was putting Snapdragon processors to good use. (Side note: dragons have special meaning in Chinese culture.)

Good for you Mike, I guess you have a special spot in her heart.  :-+

BTW, hows Tiffany Yep doing ?

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Re: Naomi SexyCyborg Wu's Patreon Shut Down by VICE
« Reply #92 on: April 05, 2018, 10:34:33 am »
Pretty sure my post was removed, unless it was the Youtube fairies.
Still shows up if I log in under my account, but it seems gone from public view.


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« Reply #93 on: April 05, 2018, 10:41:21 am »
I also believe the title should be changed.

It does seem that her Patreon was shut down by Patreon and not by VICE?

Probably all this time it was a huge typo mistake, maybe it was by Vice Squad at Patreon, rather than the Vice Magazine ?

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« Reply #94 on: April 05, 2018, 12:48:56 pm »
I do hope she's not deleting comments from people asking legitimate questions.
it happened anywhere including err.... anyway if you (not dave) think its informative, enjoy...



and on to the test...



and err try to save them locally in case it got deleted by the VICE mr president... well anyone is free to delete this if its just nonsense... ymmv...

ps: i wonder what song in the 2nd link its kinda cool if anyone can tell me i'll appreciate it.

Here's the song:
 
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Re: Naomi SexyCyborg Wu's Patreon Shut Down by VICE
« Reply #95 on: April 05, 2018, 01:14:47 pm »
Pretty sure my post was removed, unless it was the Youtube fairies.
Still shows up if I log in under my account, but it seems gone from public view.



Probably the "Approve comments" option is enabled. You can see you comment, but it wont go public unless approved by the channel owner.

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Re: Naomi SexyCyborg Wu's Patreon Shut Down by VICE
« Reply #96 on: April 05, 2018, 03:02:35 pm »
Probably the "Approve comments" option is enabled. You can see you comment, but it wont go public unless approved by the channel owner.

Yep, I just checked that and she has comment approval turned on.
So she won't publish any critical comment or ones that asks questions she doesn't like. That tells me a lot.
I asked her on twitter to comment on the doxing, and I don't expect a reply, yet she was happy to respond to me before in general.
From her zero comments on the doxing I can only conclude that she did the doxing very deliberately and Vice has now done a follow up article stating as much, in fact, even worse, claiming she made further threats.

https://motherboard.vice.com/en_us/article/pax3q7/a-note-about-shenzhens-homegrown-cyborg-naomi-wu

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We still feel the story speaks for itself, and have no desire to publicly engage with every subject who disagrees with our stories. Every person is entitled to share their opinion. But in this case, after Naomi published a video containing the home address of one of our employees to multiple platforms and threatened our staff and their partners with further doxing and harassment, we felt it was warranted to discuss what has happened. In regard to the video specifically, the platforms, including YouTube, Twitter, and Patreon, determined for themselves what action to take in accordance with their terms of service.

And this is I think were her narrative fails. Vice don't have the clout to take down Youtube videos (the video description "Vice Magazine will probably get this video taken down" is laughable), or get Patreon to suspend someone. But they, like we all do, have a right to report deliberate doxing and potentially get that material removed. Patreon have a more harsh policy on this though and shut down your entire account rather than remove content.
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Re: Naomi SexyCyborg Wu's Patreon Shut Down by VICE
« Reply #97 on: April 05, 2018, 03:04:04 pm »
So let's get a few things straight.....

She makes a brand image almost entirely based on sexuality, but that's off limits to talk about.
A college friend of mine (who shall remain anonymous) also "showed herself off" (to an even greater extent than Naomi ever did) to get Bitcoin back in the day. Would it be OK to ask her just how she showed herself on camera?

So, interviewing a webcam model and asking them to talk about the specifics of their trade? Sounds completely normal.

The only problem in this instance is that something is someone is mixing two genres, ie softcore/modelling with technology, relying on the former as the primary means of success AND the primary means of defining their identity and persona, then they insist that only the latter is permissible as a topic of discussion. Not just in articles either.
That anonymous former Bitcoiner works in a completely different field (medical) nowadays. She also sometimes mixed in some tech as in some basic "how to" guides relating to Bitcoin like how to set up a miner. Some of the things she did to get Bitcoin (like bust the "girls can't pee standing up" myth) were controversial with the Bitcoiners of the day and are definitely not something she would want connected to her real name. While I have no clue exactly how much she made doing all that, paying for expensive medical school or at least taking a big chunk out of the loan is very significant.
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Congratulations on getting a shout-out from her. Must feel good. But it's important to be honest with oneself whether that would feel as good if she wasn't so pretty and popular, or whether she'd be validating you if didn't provide utility to her. If you check out her comments sections on videos, there are hundred of guys hoping for a response from her. Not intending anything as a personal attack either, its just very obvious what is happening when you take a step back from the situation.
Above and beyond what she normally does, as in dedicate a post about me including pictures that I told her she can use.
https://twitter.com/RealSexyCyborg/status/932136250454163458
You could say I "bought" a badge of honor to display on my Facebook, which I used to get positive responses from my other friends. It really does make mining feel like a game and every part of the setup now has a special story attached. Several of my friends who work at or used to work at Qualcomm were very happy to see how I was putting Snapdragon processors to good use. (Side note: dragons have special meaning in Chinese culture.)

Good for you Mike, I guess you have a special spot in her heart.  :-+

BTW, hows Tiffany Yep doing ?
Naomi's popularity was exactly what makes the "badge of honor" worth something. I could have actually used that to try to "hype up" one of the small altcoins I was mining but then, once the price falls back down, I risk the fallout from unhappy coiners negatively affecting her.

Tiffany Yep is doing very well and really liked how I use technology. I don't think she's into crypto, though, except possibly how it allows arbitrary data to act like a random bit sequence as far as communications is concerned.
This thread is never about Naomi, its all about the OP's obsesion for Chinese chicks.

Hint : Use forum's advanced search, search for posts made by the OP and the item to search for is "Tiffany Yep" ... and take a clue from the oldest date of the post found and approx. the total posts found by the search, it has been almost a decade.

Also look at the OP's profile picture.  ;)

Not just Chinese chicks - Allie Moore, CaitlinV3, Micah Elizabeth Scott, and Rinoa Super-Genius are definitely not Chinese, to name a few.

Micah and Naomi top my list because they're very unique in the shows they make. Rinoa Super-Genius is another one I consider special.

CaitlinV3, Joanne Chiang, and TastyPC host very similar shows and therefore are less unique.
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Re: Naomi SexyCyborg Wu's Patreon Shut Down by VICE
« Reply #98 on: April 05, 2018, 10:03:52 pm »
@eevblog. She replied back on twitter.

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Re: Naomi SexyCyborg Wu's Patreon Shut Down by VICE
« Reply #99 on: April 05, 2018, 11:14:27 pm »
@eevblog. She replied back on twitter.

She send me a lengthy DM.
I won't reveal what's in it, but let's just say, whilst sympathetic to her plight in China, I'm still not convinced she's an innocent victim here.
I think she played hard ball and she lost her Patreon as a result.
She said on twitter her channel is "dead", and I can't see how. She still has 265k subs, a big loyal fan base, and the ability to upload. The lost Patreon money can be made back in other ways, I don't know why she has to stop blogging.
I think I'll stop now, I know enough and my question has been answered, the claims in the most recent Vice response article are true.

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