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Raj:

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--- Quote from: Raj on April 28, 2020, 05:30:58 am ---If you don't have outlet access everywhere you stand, either you're limited by law, or your house design was bad.

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On planet earth we use drills outside our house as well :)

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I think cordless tools are work especially grinders for hot work and working around welding type stuff (so many burrs and filings and dust and crap the extension cords are a hazard). Downside you need a few expensive dewalt 60V batteries to do a reasonable amount of work.. or just take breaks since its extremely nasty work

I kind of see how many pounds of freaking material the people that complain about battery tools in non production jobs have to grind! These people must be repairing earth movers and fixing battle ships!


I think some people still have PTSD from brushed motors + nicad

Brushless lithium tools are GREAT. And you learn to work efficiently (hold grinder correctly, check to see if the disks are in good shape). with a cord you can sit there all day doing nothing on a flat wheel. If you need a really strong drill chances are its not the right tool for the job (i.e. use a magnetic drill).

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--- Quote from: ogden on April 28, 2020, 04:54:23 pm ---
--- Quote from: Raj on April 28, 2020, 05:30:58 am ---If you don't have outlet access everywhere you stand, either you're limited by law, or your house design was bad.

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On planet earth we use drills outside our house as well :)

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Still...a contractor grade chord extension is cheaper than a battery. I just hate buying cordless tools, except screwdrivers, since they are the weakest in their category.
Cordless tools are like, someone uses them, forget to charge them, and a while later you try to use them in an emergency and you can't.




--- Quote from: schmitt trigger on April 28, 2020, 08:59:43 pm ---Back this last December, my family and my brother's family were enjoying a dinner together, an evening a few days before Christmas.

Suddenly some of the lights became very bright, while others dimmed considerably. Because the mains service here is 120v-neutral-120v, I immediately recognized it as a phase unbalance.
I instructed to turn off all the lights and unplug all electrical devices.

In the dark, with the assistance of battery powered torches, my bother and I went to the electrical box. With the help of a battery powered DMM, we quickly determined that the neutral wire had an intermittent connection with the bus bar.

The set screw holding the wire was perhaps dirty or corroded and we could not loosen it, no matter how hard we tried. But my brother remembered that an acquaintance nearby was a contractor and had many power tools. So with his battery powered mobile phone gave him a call to see if he was available.

He was, thus we hoped to my car, which has a battery powered starter, drove there, and borrowed a heavy-duty battery powered Bosch screwdriver.

Drove back to my brother's home, and with the Bosch screwdriver we were able to remove the stubborn set screw, clean it up and tighten it again.
A few moments we were back enjoying our dinner.

So I agree with the thread starter: Batteries are useless.

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Not completely useless...But the choice for having so many battery types is pretty awful...I'd rather have everything except the car and phone in that case, powered by 18650, and that to replaceable as easy as doing and undoing a door with a screwdriver

Had batteries been useless, they wouldn't have existed  :-DD
hendorog:

--- Quote from: schmitt trigger on April 28, 2020, 08:59:43 pm ---Back this last December, my family and my brother's family were enjoying a dinner together, an evening a few days before Christmas.

Suddenly some of the lights became very bright, while others dimmed considerably. Because the mains service here is 120v-neutral-120v, I immediately recognized it as a phase unbalance.
I instructed to turn off all the lights and unplug all electrical devices.

In the dark, with the assistance of battery powered torches, my bother and I went to the electrical box. With the help of a battery powered DMM, we quickly determined that the neutral wire had an intermittent connection with the bus bar.

The set screw holding the wire was perhaps dirty or corroded and we could not loosen it, no matter how hard we tried. But my brother remembered that an acquaintance nearby was a contractor and had many power tools. So with his battery powered mobile phone gave him a call to see if he was available.

He was, thus we hoped to my car, which has a battery powered starter, drove there, and borrowed a heavy-duty battery powered Bosch screwdriver.

Drove back to my brother's home, and with the Bosch screwdriver we were able to remove the stubborn set screw, clean it up and tighten it again.
A few moments we were back enjoying our dinner.

So I agree with the thread starter: Batteries are useless.

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You were lucky all those batteries were not dead I guess :)
Electro Detective:

I've just come back from another 'AA' meeting and this is how my speech went:  :popcorn: 

"I hate batteries a bit less lately

Only because I now buy cheapies and knockoffs which are same or better quality than the decadent brand names

Brand names that blow their quality control and R+D budgets on keeping the advert Enerjizzer/DurexCell Bunnies and stunt doubles going
with ample supply of vegan food, booze, coke, and 60 inch TVs to toss out hotel windows 

The cheapies and knockoffs leak less or same, so hey, why not pocket the difference
and get some money back as compensation for past battery chewed gear  >:(

fwiw I remove batteries in most cases and have a cheap appropriate screwdriver with a set of batteries with each meter that cops occasional or specialisticized use  ???
so it's less a hassle finding a screwdriver tool when you need it"


Anyway that's how my mild curry Hate Speech on batteries went at 'AA'  :D
 
engrguy42:
Here's the REAL "AA" meeting speech for this group:

"Okay, I admit it....I'm a battery fanboy. They're fun. Hours of endless research and playing. I love 'em. And if anyone says otherwise, well, it hurts my feelings. Cuz I like 'em. So nobody can disagree with me. It hurts my ego. So if anyone says anything bad about batteries, be prepared to incur the Wrath of the Bruised Egos".

 :-DD

Actually, you could replace "batteries" in that speech with anything that people have decided they like.  :-DMM
Electro Detective:
LOL, you did not include the small few that exercise 'Report to moderator' tendencies when the Bruised Egos (great band name!) 
want immediate 'Satisfaction' but without swords, pistols or straight shooter talk  :box:

 ;D
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