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I have the feeling that the whole trade war starts from a pile of nonsense.
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technix:

--- Quote from: sourcecharge on May 24, 2019, 05:48:41 pm ---
--- Quote from: windsmurf on May 24, 2019, 05:21:02 pm ---
--- Quote from: soldar on May 24, 2019, 10:46:18 am ---
--- Quote from: sourcecharge on May 24, 2019, 07:20:18 am --- This is a long term trade war that China can not win.  We all know it, and no matter how much propaganda you throw at us, we (true americans) are with those that are for our interests first.

MAGA
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...
The problems of America are not caused by China, they are caused by a changing world to which America does not want to adapt.

In reality Americans today have a better standard of living than they have ever had but the MAGA crowd cannot bear to see people of other countries catching up. They want the rest of the world to be way below America, and even minorities in America to know their place. It is purely envy of the other guys catching up. It is very ugly and very immoral.
...

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You hit the nail on the head there.  MAGA crowd have the superiority complex... if they're not winning/dominating, then the rest of of the world must cheating, especially if they're a country of the "minority" race. 
The roots of this psychology run back to the days of slavery.  We had, on the one hand, these national ideals of freedom and equality. And, on the other hand, we had this economic reality of a slavery system that was part of the transatlantic slave trade. So, basically, this ideology developed to justify how slaves weren't equal biologically.  This national psychology still persist in the U.S.   Trump is a symptom of this persistence.

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Your TDS is showing...

*videos removed*

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[better source needed]

And since I have revealed my soapbox, I have a case of TDS too.
sourcecharge:

--- Quote from: technix on May 24, 2019, 06:02:57 pm ---
--- Quote from: sourcecharge on May 24, 2019, 05:48:41 pm ---
--- Quote from: windsmurf on May 24, 2019, 05:21:02 pm ---
--- Quote from: soldar on May 24, 2019, 10:46:18 am ---
--- Quote from: sourcecharge on May 24, 2019, 07:20:18 am --- This is a long term trade war that China can not win.  We all know it, and no matter how much propaganda you throw at us, we (true americans) are with those that are for our interests first.

MAGA
--- End quote ---
...
The problems of America are not caused by China, they are caused by a changing world to which America does not want to adapt.

In reality Americans today have a better standard of living than they have ever had but the MAGA crowd cannot bear to see people of other countries catching up. They want the rest of the world to be way below America, and even minorities in America to know their place. It is purely envy of the other guys catching up. It is very ugly and very immoral.
...

--- End quote ---

You hit the nail on the head there.  MAGA crowd have the superiority complex... if they're not winning/dominating, then the rest of of the world must cheating, especially if they're a country of the "minority" race. 
The roots of this psychology run back to the days of slavery.  We had, on the one hand, these national ideals of freedom and equality. And, on the other hand, we had this economic reality of a slavery system that was part of the transatlantic slave trade. So, basically, this ideology developed to justify how slaves weren't equal biologically.  This national psychology still persist in the U.S.   Trump is a symptom of this persistence.

--- End quote ---

Your TDS is showing...

*videos removed*

--- End quote ---
[better source needed]

And since I have revealed my soapbox, I have a case of TDS too.

--- End quote ---

ok ok one more TDS special coming up:

apis:

--- Quote from: sourcecharge on May 24, 2019, 05:48:41 pm ---
--- Quote from: windsmurf on May 24, 2019, 05:21:02 pm ---
--- Quote from: soldar on May 24, 2019, 10:46:18 am ---
--- Quote from: sourcecharge on May 24, 2019, 07:20:18 am --- This is a long term trade war that China can not win.  We all know it, and no matter how much propaganda you throw at us, we (true americans) are with those that are for our interests first.

MAGA
--- End quote ---
...
The problems of America are not caused by China, they are caused by a changing world to which America does not want to adapt.

In reality Americans today have a better standard of living than they have ever had but the MAGA crowd cannot bear to see people of other countries catching up. They want the rest of the world to be way below America, and even minorities in America to know their place. It is purely envy of the other guys catching up. It is very ugly and very immoral.
...

--- End quote ---

You hit the nail on the head there.  MAGA crowd have the superiority complex... if they're not winning/dominating, then the rest of of the world must cheating, especially if they're a country of the "minority" race. 
The roots of this psychology run back to the days of slavery.  We had, on the one hand, these national ideals of freedom and equality. And, on the other hand, we had this economic reality of a slavery system that was part of the transatlantic slave trade. So, basically, this ideology developed to justify how slaves weren't equal biologically.  This national psychology still persist in the U.S.   Trump is a symptom of this persistence.

--- End quote ---

Your TDS is showing...

https://www.youtube. com/watch?v=iZ0qTNEFVtI

https://www.youtube. com/watch?v=9LlHU53G2Z0

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That video was very dishonestly taken out of context to falsely discredit her, she's actually talking about what the republicans are doing.

Googling turned up this, which shows what she was actually saying:
https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/nancy-pelosi-wrap-up-smear/

This kind of dishonesty is just one example of how low the US right wing has fallen. It's not going to end well I fear.
sourcecharge:

--- Quote from: apis on May 24, 2019, 06:14:59 pm ---
--- Quote from: sourcecharge on May 24, 2019, 05:48:41 pm ---
--- Quote from: windsmurf on May 24, 2019, 05:21:02 pm ---
--- Quote from: soldar on May 24, 2019, 10:46:18 am ---
--- Quote from: sourcecharge on May 24, 2019, 07:20:18 am --- This is a long term trade war that China can not win.  We all know it, and no matter how much propaganda you throw at us, we (true americans) are with those that are for our interests first.

MAGA
--- End quote ---
...
The problems of America are not caused by China, they are caused by a changing world to which America does not want to adapt.

In reality Americans today have a better standard of living than they have ever had but the MAGA crowd cannot bear to see people of other countries catching up. They want the rest of the world to be way below America, and even minorities in America to know their place. It is purely envy of the other guys catching up. It is very ugly and very immoral.
...

--- End quote ---

You hit the nail on the head there.  MAGA crowd have the superiority complex... if they're not winning/dominating, then the rest of of the world must cheating, especially if they're a country of the "minority" race. 
The roots of this psychology run back to the days of slavery.  We had, on the one hand, these national ideals of freedom and equality. And, on the other hand, we had this economic reality of a slavery system that was part of the transatlantic slave trade. So, basically, this ideology developed to justify how slaves weren't equal biologically.  This national psychology still persist in the U.S.   Trump is a symptom of this persistence.

--- End quote ---

Your TDS is showing...

https://www.youtube. com/watch?v=iZ0qTNEFVtI

https://www.youtube. com/watch?v=9LlHU53G2Z0

--- End quote ---
That video was very dishonestly taken out of context to falsely discredit her, she's actually talking about what the republicans are doing.

Googling turned up this, which shows what she was actually saying:
https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/nancy-pelosi-wrap-up-smear/

This kind of dishonesty is just one example of how low the US right wing has fallen. It's not going to end well I fear.

--- End quote ---

I guess you don't get it, the wrap up smear of race baiting is a form a TDS.  Yes I know that she was trying to pin it on republicans.  I'm in agreement with locking this thread, this is nothing more than a TDS thread and it was so from the beginning "pile of nonsense."

technix:

--- Quote from: blueskull on May 24, 2019, 06:12:55 pm ---Is this where it ends? D vs R? This is a locked thread.

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I wish this is not where this threads goes, but somehow it riled up the MAGA crowd and somehow it went down that route. Maybe it is the MAGA nationalism that initiated this whole trade war, and the deficit is nothing more than a excuse?


--- Quote from: apis on May 24, 2019, 06:14:59 pm ---That video was very dishonestly taken out of context to falsely discredit her, she's actually talking about what the republicans are doing.

Googling turned up this, which shows what she was actually saying:
https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/nancy-pelosi-wrap-up-smear/

This kind of dishonesty is just one example of how low the US right wing has fallen. It's not going to end well I fear.

--- End quote ---
That kind of behavior is by definition smearing: quote mining. Hence...


--- Quote from: sourcecharge on May 24, 2019, 06:10:23 pm ---ok ok one more TDS special coming up:

*video removed*

--- End quote ---
[better source needed]


--- Quote from: sourcecharge on May 24, 2019, 06:24:22 pm ---I guess you don't get it, the wrap up smear of race baiting is a form a TDS.  Yes I know that she was trying to pin it on republicans.  I'm in agreement with locking this thread, this is nothing more than a TDS thread and it was so from the beginning "pile of nonsense."

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You may want to go back and re-read the first post. The US-China trade war thing has been fairly bipartisan recently within US, so at least as of now it is not a D or R thing. There are some people that is trying to bring up the D vs R thing within the thread and me as the thread opener failed to moderate that.

And since I revealed my soapbox, I am no D, no R and no CCP. Count me a Green if you must really.
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