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I have the feeling that the whole trade war starts from a pile of nonsense.
apis:
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--- Quote from: apis on May 25, 2019, 07:25:27 pm ---Left/right is somewhat objectively defined, the nationalist populist might be right of e.g. CDU but CDU is still right-wing. It's not obvious that the nationalists are further to the right either, although they are sometimes sloppily assumed to be. Often they lean more towards the center so that they can attract xenophobic/anti-establishment voters from across the spectrum.
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I understand that, hence the use of the phrases Overton left and Overton right indicating the position on the political spectrum related to the Overton window. We have an Overton window somewhere in the center-right to mainstream right wing now.
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Yes, but the Overton window doesn't matter in this case. It's still objectively wrong to say EU is a leftist organisation. It's like saying war is peace, freedom is slavery, ignorance is strength... it's doublespeak no matter how they want to spin it. Facts are facts.
The Overton window is about making extreme opinions more mainstream, like wanting to build a wall to mexico or that the US should start trade wars with Europe and China.
technix:
--- Quote from: apis on May 25, 2019, 07:46:03 pm ---Yes, but the Overton window doesn't matter in this case. It's still objectively wrong to say EU is a leftist organisation. It's like saying war is peace, freedom is slavery, ignorance is strength... it's doublespeak no matter how they want to spin it. Facts are facts.
The Overton window is about making extreme opinions more mainstream, like wanting to build a wall to mexico or that the US should start trade wars with Europe and China.
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I fell into the right wing trap here, sorry. Speaking of...
--- Quote from: apis on May 25, 2019, 07:46:03 pm ---Facts are facts.
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Why do we have so many right-wing Pinocchios mow?
apis:
--- Quote from: technix on May 25, 2019, 07:53:05 pm ---
--- Quote from: apis on May 25, 2019, 07:46:03 pm ---Facts are facts.
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Why do we have so many right-wing Pinocchios mow?
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That's the big question. :-\
--- Quote from: technix on May 25, 2019, 07:36:55 pm ---Given the geography of US, why don't you automate the thing? You already have some of the best robotics companies in the world who needs orders, electricity is cheap and the land is flat allowing the deployment of huge machineries. Replacing those temporary farm workers with robots means they now have no reason to enter US whatsoever, and since robots are not humans they are not subjected to those laws or even labor laws in general, and the wage of a single engineer plus machine maintenance is way cheaper than the wages to the farm hands too. What do those farms produce anyway?
Even in the hilly part of China there are automated farming going on. What used to be the job of half the village's residents of the week is now one engineer/drone pilot's job of the day.
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I imagine that creativity and rate of change might be higher in China, but farmers in the US has been adapting robotic farming methods for quite a while:
bsfeechannel:
--- Quote from: blueskull on May 23, 2019, 10:24:44 pm ---Not going to happen. If the west tries to shape our civilization, there will be nothing but hostility.
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What is so Chinese about China?
The economy is capitalist: a Western invention. The political system is communism: a by-product of capitalism. The government is a dictatorship, invented by the ancient Romans as a temporary emergency device, then turned by the emperors into a permanent expedient at the end of the Republic.
Chinese cut their hairs and dress themselves as if they lived in the West.
We don't buy any Chinese products. We buy Western products (i.e. products the West want) made in China. And we pay for them in dollars, a Western currency.
So for someone watching the East from a distance it looks like the West won and there's no viable alternative.
soldar:
Wow, that's a pretty skewed and self-centered view. I'm glad it is not common.
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