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I have the feeling that the whole trade war starts from a pile of nonsense.

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SparkyFX:

--- Quote from: blueskull on May 27, 2019, 07:09:23 am ---Financing institutions have access to that, not the sellers. If you buy something with financing, the seller asks the financing provider, and the provider queries the database.
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Similar systems are in place here - in form of a private company, as there will always people try to game the system, trying to take credits to uphold a lifestyle they can not afford or try to pay for an old credit by taking up a new one. The rule of thumb is that you end up getting a record for failing to pay a rate after several notices (~ 3 months).


--- Quote ---when you borrow money from the bank, the bank can interpret your spending pattern as sign of low income and weak paying capability.
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Credit providers here want to see the last 3 pay slips, information on your employment and so on - or other forms of security.
And then there happened a financial crisis based on faulty credits, mostly because credit providers had the wet dream of unlimited growth and wanted their monthly commission.

technix:

--- Quote from: soldar on May 28, 2019, 03:29:46 pm ---*news articles removed*

China maintains a robust maritime militia in the South China Sea composed of fishing vessels equipped to carry out missions just short of combat.

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While there is a lack of agreement on who owns the islands on South China Sea, it IS agreed that this area is not international waters. US and Australia are not countries bordering this area, nor do they have a claim there, so those aircrafts really should not appear there unless invited. Expect bullets when you walk across an active war zone.

I would like to say that should the aircrafts be Filipino or Vietnamese the likelihood of them being targeted by lasers would be much lower, as TBH China really don't want a war unless forced into one.


--- Quote from: SparkyFX on May 28, 2019, 04:24:56 pm ---Similar systems are in place here - in form of a private company, as there will always people try to game the system, trying to take credits to uphold a lifestyle they can not afford or try to pay for an old credit by taking up a new one. The rule of thumb is that you end up getting a record for failing to pay a rate after several notices (~ 3 months).

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PBOC is the central bank of China and it is one of the ministries of the government. Otherwise the PBOC system is similar.


--- Quote from: apis on May 28, 2019, 03:29:18 pm ---I'm not so sure there is less bloody power struggle in China than in democracies.

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At least not since the 1989 protests (which the government labeled as an unrest, and the netizens labeled as a mishandling of protesters) overall and not since 1978 for intra-CCP political processes. Arguments are still very common (as you do in a democracy,) fingers are often being pointed, but fists are no longer thrown. (This is something better than Taiwan's legislature where fist fights are common occurrences.)


--- Quote from: apis on May 28, 2019, 03:29:18 pm ---I've never heard that before. Our phonetic alphabet can be traced back to the ancient Egyptian hieroglyphs. It's likely that such a phonetic alphabet then spread to other cultures since it could be used to encode their native languages.

*images and links removed*

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Yet the meanings of the symbols are largely lost. Otherwise you would not have needed Rosetta.

Even modern Chinese text still derive its meanings from when the symbols were created back in 2nd millennium BCE as oracle bone script. And since even modern Chinese high school students are taught classic Chinese, almost anyone with a college degree in China can read and understand text contemporary of Rosetta, with some of the proverbs hailing from that time still used in daily conversation, largely retaining its original meaning.


--- Quote from: apis on May 28, 2019, 03:29:18 pm ---Sometimes it is right to intervene, like against IS or if a country is planing genocide. But interventions should follow international law and be decided democratically by the international community through the United Nations. It's not a perfect system either, but it's the best the world has.

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I should have said don't assert undue force. Should intervention be authorized that is whole another situation.

bsfeechannel:

--- Quote from: technix on May 28, 2019, 04:39:30 am ---Resisting against US interfering its internal process.
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As far as I understand, the US took measures that are under their jurisdiction. They can, as any other country can, change their import taxes and ban or allow foreign companies to operate in their territory.

How can these measures be an interference in China's internal process?

bsfeechannel:

--- Quote from: blueskull on May 28, 2019, 08:50:04 pm ---He was talking about US's attitude to Chinese political system and Taiwan problem. This thread has long deviated from trade war.

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Well, I was following Dave's request to stick to the trade war.

Anyway, China didn't seem unhappy when the US won the WWII. As I understand, if it weren't for them, China would be speaking Japanese by now.


--- Quote from: soldar on May 27, 2019, 09:17:17 pm ---And America, which never stops preaching western style democracy has been busy for decades overthrowing popularly elected governments and installing dictatorships in their place. And nobody seems to even recognize the contradiction.

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Bingo!

A lot of people recognize. There are even books about it.

In fact they recognize a lot more: when Chinese herald that dictatorship is an alternative to democracy they are fulfilling this exact age-old US agenda.

That's why the Chinese discourse sounds like bullshit. It is the same ol' crap now painted red with some yellow stars.

For all the world, China and the US are sleeping together.

They are both part of the same hypocrisy. (Not Shakespeare, but at least it is The Godfather II).

soldar:

--- Quote from: bsfeechannel on May 28, 2019, 09:57:47 pm --- Anyway, China didn't seem unhappy when the US won the WWII. As I understand, if it weren't for them, China would be speaking Japanese by now.
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Ha, ha. That's a good one. Where did you buy your history books?

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