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| I have the feeling that the whole trade war starts from a pile of nonsense. |
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| soldar:
--- Quote from: technix on May 31, 2019, 05:12:42 am ---Here is some theory I have heard in China: the purpose of this trade war is to achieve at least one of the following: 1) Force an economical regression of no less than 50%, preferably 75% or more. 2) Fracture China into several states, that is deeply at war with each other. EU-style confederation is not an option. The goal of this is to guarantee no competition to US in any way. --- End quote --- That is just silly. there is no way in the world any of those things could happen as a result of this trade war. No way. The purpose is for Trump to create chaos and thrive in that chaos and be the center of all attention. There is no ulterior motive because the guy is totally superficial and has no understanding of anything. He is like a baby saying "look at me playing with my poop!". He will get the support of some Americans who will support him no matter what. The real consequences in the long run will be that the Chinese people will support their country and in the long run, China will gain more than the USA and come out ahead. |
| magic:
Yes, it's just chaos for the sake of chaos and not reacting to decades (or perhaps centuries :P) of unsustainable economic policies. --- Quote ---In the 17th and 18th centuries, the demand for Chinese goods (particularly silk, porcelain, and tea) in Europe created a trade imbalance between Qing Imperial China and Great Britain. European silver flowed into China through the Canton System, which confined incoming foreign trade to the southern port city of Canton. To counter this imbalance, the British East India Company began to grow opium in India and smuggle them into China illegally. The influx of narcotics reversed the Chinese trade surplus, drained the economy of silver, and increased the numbers of opium addicts inside the country, outcomes that worried Chinese officials. --- End quote --- You can't have trade if you have nothing to sell. |
| OwO:
Not our fault that the US isn't selling stuff that people want to buy at prices they are willing to pay. |
| soldar:
--- Quote from: OwO on May 31, 2019, 10:59:25 am --- Not our fault that the US isn't selling stuff that people want to buy at prices they are willing to pay. --- End quote --- I am reminded of a funny anecdote decades ago when America and Japan were negotiating trade deals and America was trying to force Japan into buying more American cars. Some Japanese politician or negotiator was asked about this and his response was something along the lines of "Why should the Japanese buy cars that even Americans don't want to buy? Maybe first they can try to get Americans to buy American cars." History repeats itself. I remember when all the things being said about China today were being said about Japan. |
| apis:
--- Quote from: BravoV on May 31, 2019, 05:20:18 am ---Looking at the ways the orange face dude managed the international relationship affairs as he is just good at bluffing, I would say China should do just few stunts, say like sinking one or two or the whole fleet of the big US military ships when crossing Taiwan strait. That will send a crystal clear message. --- End quote --- That is a really bad idea, that would just give Trump an excuse to start a war. A war between the US and China would be a nuclear war, it would be very ugly. Ultimately China would loose (everyone would loose, but China would loose the most) because China can't match the US military, not even close, that's the reality. The only way to deal with this is like the EU is doing, keep calm and ride out the storm. Trump will be gone, hopefully next year, otherwise after 2020. Lets just hope he doesn't cause a global depression before that. |
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