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| I have the feeling that the whole trade war starts from a pile of nonsense. |
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| SiliconWizard:
--- Quote from: blueskull on August 12, 2019, 04:36:18 pm --- --- Quote from: SiliconWizard on August 12, 2019, 04:32:18 pm ---US *bans* are something else though. Most of them are decided for strictly political reasons and not economic ones, so that's very different. --- End quote --- That IS a thing. I don't care about price, but I care about getting the parts. That's why I moved to Gowin from Lattice and STM/GD from LPC/Kinetis. --- End quote --- Well yes that's certainly a thing on both sides, and I think the possibility of China banning US products to retaliate is NOT a smart move nor an appropriate response. That said, you're not necessary losing here. I haven't evaluated Gowin products but they look pretty interesting compared to Lattice ones. One additional thought here: many people seem to criticize protectionism from the US, but I think China also has a form of protectionism that is even more stringent. So maybe you can confirm this or not as someone living in China. All I know is that it's pretty difficult to enter the chinese market as an european company. You must be really big to stand a chance. |
| technix:
--- Quote from: SiliconWizard on August 12, 2019, 04:43:06 pm ---One additional thought here: many people seem to criticize protectionism from the US, but I think China also has a form of protectionism that is even more stringent. So maybe you can confirm this or not as someone living in China. All I know is that it's pretty difficult to enter the chinese market as an european company. You must be really big to stand a chance. --- End quote --- It is a "how do your operations scale" problem when coming to foreign investments in China. The law banning foreign investment in China has been mostly withdrawn or relaxed, but there is still natural barriers that comes with the sheer scale of China. When it comes to China it has to be be big - with 9.6M sq. meters of land and ~1.4B population, things get big very quickly and a lot of business practises don't scale that well. Just the city of Shanghai the population is about the same as the whole Australia, for reference. Then there is the diverse culture within the country. It is almost as if entering EU market, but instead of being allowed to pick and choose individual EU member countries, the company have to decide between either taking the whole EU with both Germany and Romania in one deal, or not entering at all. Then there is the discrepancy between exchange rates and PPP. This means converted prices from other regions will not be competitive in local markets, so the either pricing structure must be shaken up or target audience must be shifted. It is currently a hard policy to keep that exchange-PPP discrepancy. --- Quote from: Marco on June 07, 2019, 02:02:06 pm ---A coal infrastructure is very good for autarky. --- End quote --- Ding ding ding. The whole Chinese economy policies is built on top of a safety net based on autarky and all trade is treated technically as a luxury - that is, even with all foreign trade cut off, while the economy will tank, people will be underemployed or unemployed, famine will not hit. |
| coppice:
--- Quote from: technix on August 12, 2019, 07:09:41 pm ---It is a "how do your operations scale" problem when coming to foreign investments in China. --- End quote --- It can be quite a culture shock when you do your first project in China. The design phase is pretty much like anywhere else, except prototyping is usually much faster. One day you finish your design qualification, sign things off, and say the design is ready to roll. Then someone says "we'll make a 1000 of them this week. If we don't hit any snags we start making 50k a day next Monday. The longer lead time items, like the plastics, are on order.". :) |
| bd139:
That’s why they’re so good. Here they’d still be charging lunches out at Pret while the Chinese were putting first product in boxes. |
| soldar:
General Motors Co. reported sales of 4.04 million vehicles in China in 2017, a third more than the 3.002 million the company sold in the United States. If things continue on the current path I am going to guess Chinese car manufacturers are going to get a boost and GM might have to start selling cars in America. |
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