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I have the feeling that the whole trade war starts from a pile of nonsense.

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soldar:

--- Quote from: maginnovision on May 23, 2019, 09:06:38 pm --- Farmers have always been subsidized here.
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And now $16 billion more to offset trade war losses.

Shoe retailers against trade war:

--- Quote ---https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/2019/05/21/nike-converse-adidas-among-shoe-retailers-warning-trump-against-trade-war-with-china/
Nike, Converse, Adidas among 170 shoe retailers warning Trump against trade war with China
In a letter, the companies warn of the “catastrophic” effects of the proposed tariffs

Nike and other shoe companies sent a letter to the White House warning of the “catastrophic” effects President Trump’s proposed 25 percent tariff would have on consumers, companies and the U.S. economy. (Mike Segar/Reuters)
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Marco:
Free trade was supposed to make Russia and China nice, progressive and easy going. Instead Putin is poisoning dissidents in foreign countries and annexing Russophone regions and China is getting ready to annex half the pacific ocean. It's politically correct to isolate Russia, but it's politically incorrect to recognize China is a country the west should never have been building up economically and shouldn't continue to do so. Until failure becomes undeniable such as in Russia's case, the only international policy allowed in politically correct circles is more free trade.

Trump is not willing to sacrifice the US's autarky on the altar of free trade only to build up a future enemy in the vain hope they will become less dangerous over time. He might be a clown doing it for all the wrong reasons, but there's something to be said for cutting our losses and assuming that China is never going to be anything else but an enemy to be contained until their regime changes. It might very well be true.

soldar:

--- Quote from: Marco on May 23, 2019, 09:22:59 pm --- Free trade was supposed to make Russia and China nice, progressive and easy going.
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Really? Where did you hear that?

Bud:

--- Quote from: soldar on May 23, 2019, 09:16:14 pm ---
--- Quote from: maginnovision on May 23, 2019, 09:06:38 pm --- Farmers have always been subsidized here.
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And now $16 billion more to offset trade war losses.

Shoe retailers against trade war:

--- Quote ---https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/2019/05/21/nike-converse-adidas-among-shoe-retailers-warning-trump-against-trade-war-with-china/
Nike, Converse, Adidas among 170 shoe retailers warning Trump against trade war with China
In a letter, the companies warn of the “catastrophic” effects of the proposed tariffs

Nike and other shoe companies sent a letter to the White House warning of the “catastrophic” effects President Trump’s proposed 25 percent tariff would have on consumers, companies and the U.S. economy. (Mike Segar/Reuters)
--- End quote ---

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Have not heard about the second one but Nike and Adidas make crap these days. They are the last brands i look at when buying a new pair of running shoes.

Marco:

--- Quote from: soldar on May 23, 2019, 09:42:54 pm ---Really? Where did you hear that?

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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Capitalist_peace

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