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I have the feeling that the whole trade war starts from a pile of nonsense.
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paulca:
Normally when you have one country primarily exporting to another the buy side's currency falls and the sell sides currency rises until the cost of importing from the other country stiffles trade and it oscaliates a little and finds an equilibrium.

However China are buying billions in US dollars every year to prevent this from happening, to keep their currency weak against the dollar to encourage continued low prices for US importers.

So China is deliberately weakening it's currency by buying US bonds.   So the trade deficit is only getting deeper and deeper as it's being artificially propped up by the Chinese government.

It will be interesting when they can no longer support this and it collapses.
soldar:

--- Quote from: Marco on May 24, 2019, 01:20:58 pm --- Might makes right.
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That makes terrorism OK. No morality, no respect for others, just grab what you can.

But if that is what America wants to do, become a rogue nation, then they can say so and stop preaching morality. Just do it and accept that others will do it to them. If you bomb the shit out of other countries just because you can then you need to accept that others have the same right to harm you as they see fit and convenient.
technix:

--- Quote from: soldar on May 24, 2019, 01:52:53 pm ---That makes terrorism OK.

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Are some alt-right groups terrorist groups? Was KKK a terrorist group? Was Fred Trump a participant of KKK activities and got arrested in 1927 for that? And who is his son again? Oh...
rstofer:

--- Quote from: technix on May 24, 2019, 01:27:11 pm ---US ripped thousands of families apart, ripped the kids away from their parents at the border, and placed kids into concentration camps.

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You might want to do a little homework on this.  It is common practice to 'traffic' a young child as a family member in the hope of 1) selling off the child in the US and 2) getting admittance.

There is no way to know, at the border crossing, whether that child is part of the family or not.  To avoid complaints of further abuse, they separate the children.  Yes, some are legitimate children, but not all.  You have to make a decision, what do you do?  Separate and get criticized or leave with 'family' and facilitate further abuse.  Make a choice!  Make it right now!

They are beginning to do DNA analysis to prove relationships but it is costly and time consuming.  If Mexico did what it's supposed to do, it wouldn't be necessary.  What do you do with the kids while you wait for results?  Make a choice!  Make it right now!

Oh, how about we 'epedite' the testing.  You would not believe how many thousands of 'rape kits' are in the queue:

http://www.endthebacklog.org/backlog/what-rape-kit-backlog

We don't have the capacity to test the DNA of rape victims and we're supposed to divert those resources to illegal immigrants?  I don't think so...

To bring this back to 'trade war' (but not a China problem), Trump, from time to time, talks about closing the southern border.  He can close the normal crossings but the border itself is wide open land covering nearly 2000 miles.  Yes, some of it is developed but most is just dirt.  I used to live down there and I spent quite a bit of time in the desert north of the border.


rstofer:

--- Quote from: technix on May 24, 2019, 01:36:57 pm ---
--- Quote from: Marco on May 24, 2019, 01:20:58 pm ---The US still is the world's bully ... and as poorly as they have handled that position, I still consider their ability to bully the world preferable to the alternative. The US really should protect its strategically important industries, such as steel and semiconductor manufacturing/design etc etc.

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What might the alternative be? China is not going to start a war, take your land or rob your people on a whim.

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Have you been paying attention to the South China Sea, artificially grown islands and cross-country territorial claims?

https://www.scmp.com/news/china/diplomacy-defence/article/2133864/chinas-rising-challenge-us-raises-risk-south-china-sea

This is going to fester until somebody makes a miscalculation.
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