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I have the feeling that the whole trade war starts from a pile of nonsense.
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Marco:
Only for shipments over a certain value in most EU countries. Small shipments are duty free ... and because China's postage subsidies and the screwed up international postage system, we pay postage through what is essentially taxation. We subsidize China's trade to the detriment of our own, thank you UPU.

The UPU is broken, Trump's push to pull out is 100% the right decision. It's also the only reason why the UPU is considering reform, so other developed nations don't follow its example. International multilateral decision making screwing us, US unilateral obstinance saving all our bacon.
technix:

--- Quote from: rstofer on May 24, 2019, 02:42:35 pm ---You might want to do a little homework on this.  It is common practice to 'traffic' a young child as a family member in the hope of 1) selling off the child in the US and 2) getting admittance.

There is no way to know, at the border crossing, whether that child is part of the family or not.  To avoid complaints of further abuse, they separate the children.  Yes, some are legitimate children, but not all.  You have to make a decision, what do you do?  Separate and get criticized or leave with 'family' and facilitate further abuse.  Make a choice!  Make it right now!

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If you want to detain, detain those "family units" together under close monitoring, for example. There is a thousand better way to handle the migrants without blatantly violating human rights and rile up the rest of world, yet you just wanted to act tough and send the world this message "come to US and we will rob you of your kids."


--- Quote from: Marco on May 24, 2019, 03:44:47 pm ---There's one other important issue nearly never mentioned, near the end of Obama's administration all the prison facilities which could house families together were closed by court order. So until that was worked around basically the administration only had two choices, detain the parents apart or not detain them at all.

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Where did "innocent until proven guilty" go? Oh right US laws, including constitution, don't apply at the borders, according to EFF. Also that was Obama's lame duck session, when US is under almost complete Republican control, so don't blame him.


--- Quote from: rstofer on May 24, 2019, 02:49:01 pm ---Have you been paying attention to the South China Sea, artificially grown islands and cross-country territorial claims?

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Where was the disputes back in the 50s? Back in the 80s even? Why did Philippines/Indonesia/Vietnam okay with Chinese claim to all those lands back then and suddenly in the 2010s they started claiming islands? Going by this track record, is it China taking land from other countries, or is it other countries taking land from China?

Do keep in mind that while China does not wish to take anyone else's land it will not permit anyone taking land from it. If you want proof that China have no intention of taking anyone else's land, look no further than the 1979 border war between China and Vietnam - Chinese army have conquered Vietnamese soil almost up against Hanoi and should China claim it then and there the claim would not be disputed, yet Chinese armies backed entirely out of Vietnam returning all occupied land back to Vietnam.

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Just to be on the record here, I am a social democrat - have always been since high school when I started learning the political process across the world. Look at AOC and Rashida Tlaib for what kind of soapbox I am on.
windsmurf:

--- Quote from: soldar on May 24, 2019, 10:46:18 am ---
--- Quote from: sourcecharge on May 24, 2019, 07:20:18 am --- This is a long term trade war that China can not win.  We all know it, and no matter how much propaganda you throw at us, we (true americans) are with those that are for our interests first.

MAGA
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The problems of America are not caused by China, they are caused by a changing world to which America does not want to adapt.

In reality Americans today have a better standard of living than they have ever had but the MAGA crowd cannot bear to see people of other countries catching up. They want the rest of the world to be way below America, and even minorities in America to know their place. It is purely envy of the other guys catching up. It is very ugly and very immoral.
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You hit the nail on the head there.  MAGA crowd have the superiority complex... if they're not winning/dominating, then the rest of of the world must cheating, especially if they're a country of the "minority" race. 
The roots of this psychology run back to the days of slavery.  We had, on the one hand, these national ideals of freedom and equality. And, on the other hand, we had this economic reality of a slavery system that was part of the transatlantic slave trade. So, basically, this ideology developed to justify how slaves weren't equal biologically.  This national psychology still persist in the U.S.   Trump is a symptom of this persistence.





technix:

--- Quote from: windsmurf on May 24, 2019, 05:21:02 pm ---The roots of this psychology run back to the days of slavery.  We had, on the one hand, these national ideals of freedom and equality. And, on the other hand, we had this economic reality of a slavery system that was part of the transatlantic slave trade. So, basically, this ideology developed to justify how slaves weren't equal biologically.  This national psychology still persist in the U.S.   Trump is a symptom of this persistence.

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I have the feeling that US is somehow stuck at the colonial era. Internally it seems like some form of internal colonialism is still being practised, showing up as the race problem. As of externally it shows up in the form of US being the world's bully. The MAGA crowd is acting as if they are colonists going to lose control of their colonies. I wonder why US learned nothing in the post-WW2 decolonization?


--- Quote from: SparkyFX on May 24, 2019, 03:47:07 pm ---*hello Huawei 5G Ban discussion*

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To some extent, I feel that China kind of deserved this for this time, as a payback of Chinese government helping Baidu driving out Google in 2010, but only if it is Qualcomm pushing this. #HotTake #UnpopularOpinion
sourcecharge:

--- Quote from: windsmurf on May 24, 2019, 05:21:02 pm ---
--- Quote from: soldar on May 24, 2019, 10:46:18 am ---
--- Quote from: sourcecharge on May 24, 2019, 07:20:18 am --- This is a long term trade war that China can not win.  We all know it, and no matter how much propaganda you throw at us, we (true americans) are with those that are for our interests first.

MAGA
--- End quote ---
...
The problems of America are not caused by China, they are caused by a changing world to which America does not want to adapt.

In reality Americans today have a better standard of living than they have ever had but the MAGA crowd cannot bear to see people of other countries catching up. They want the rest of the world to be way below America, and even minorities in America to know their place. It is purely envy of the other guys catching up. It is very ugly and very immoral.
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You hit the nail on the head there.  MAGA crowd have the superiority complex... if they're not winning/dominating, then the rest of of the world must cheating, especially if they're a country of the "minority" race. 
The roots of this psychology run back to the days of slavery.  We had, on the one hand, these national ideals of freedom and equality. And, on the other hand, we had this economic reality of a slavery system that was part of the transatlantic slave trade. So, basically, this ideology developed to justify how slaves weren't equal biologically.  This national psychology still persist in the U.S.   Trump is a symptom of this persistence.

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