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| IanB:
You say in your title you wish some smart phone manufacturer/designer would understand this--but how do you some manufacturer doesn't? You are using your bad experience with one phone, and then using that to complain about all phones and all manufacturers. This seems a bit unreasonable to me. Did you research the phone before you bought it? Did you compare different models and manufacturers to find one with the best design? I've had smart devices for years without installing updates, and never had an update forced on me. Updating older hardware to the newest OS will often consume more memory and resources, slow it down and shorten the time between charges. I tend to feel hardware works best using the software that was originally designed for it. So I don't share your experience, because my devices have never done this to me. Don't automatically assume all manufacturers and designers are the same. |
| retiredfeline:
What mfr and model phone have you? All the phones I owned asked before updating the kernel and definitely not on boot. Recent OS releases prep in the background and ask before going down for a minute or three for the actual update. |
| nali:
--- Quote from: Rick Law on August 13, 2021, 10:20:30 pm ---As I said in the OP "Good that I was planning on just to getting familiar with this new phone before I switch back to my flip phone...." So, unusually, I was reading every prompt carefully to familiarize myself with this new phone. It was booted directly into the update without any prompting. Careless touch on a wrong prompt is extremely unlikely in this case. --- End quote --- Then my apologies for the implied slur :) I would expect an upgrade to be part of the process for any new smartphone, and a reboot to be part of that process - possibly more than one depending on how up to date the factory build was. My wife is definately one for clicking/tapping without looking... more than once we've had a conversation something like "Why is it doing this?" "What did you just click?" "Don't know didn't read it I just wanted to read this message first". |
| nali:
--- Quote from: Rick Law on August 13, 2021, 10:20:30 pm ---These days, people around are more likely to just video capture the emergency event instead of calling for help.... So may be the meaning of emergency-phone has shifted by now or soon will shift. --- End quote --- You're right there; "Smartphone" is becoming a bit of a misnomer now as the "phone" part is becoming very much secondary. Yes, it's not 1988 anymore and they are more mobile computers that can also do calls. There was a recent case of a young lad who got stabbed in London. What did he do - call for an ambulance? No, he Facetimed his mum who had to work out where he was and she then called the emergency services who managed to get there in time to save him. Maybe I'm just getting old but :wtf: |
| xrunner:
--- Quote from: Rick Law on August 13, 2021, 07:25:41 pm ---This is a bit of a rant, but more so I wish manufacturers/developers of products would think about how their products are used and how the design should take that into consideration. About a week ago, I activated a new phone, all is well... I turned the phone off for a duration, and turned it back on to make a call. It powered up directly into an update screen and provide no way to pause or to stop it... Took about 20 minutes for the updates and it went directly to "optimize application" that took about another 10-20 minutes! Between download/install/optimized, I was unable to make a call for 30-40 minutes. ... --- End quote --- Some do understand - my iPhone 6s has never done that a single time. Come to think of it, no iPhone I've had has ever done that. :-// |
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