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| austfox:
How would the OP research the phone before purchase? I can’t recall any specifications that state ‘if you don’t update the firmware after 10 prompts we will automatically do it for you’. Sure, you could read private reviews, but many times these are hit and miss. |
| Red Squirrel:
I hate the phone ecosystem in general. I wish they made phones that were simply a basic device running Linux to make phone calls, text, and take pictures. Get rid of all the other crap, but if I want to, let me install regular Linux packages. Dumb phones are the closest thing but they suck to use due to lack of full keyboard, and the cameras on them are usually very lacking. |
| Cerebus:
--- Quote from: nali on August 14, 2021, 10:31:24 am --- --- Quote from: Rick Law on August 13, 2021, 10:20:30 pm ---These days, people around are more likely to just video capture the emergency event instead of calling for help.... So may be the meaning of emergency-phone has shifted by now or soon will shift. --- End quote --- You're right there; "Smartphone" is becoming a bit of a misnomer now as the "phone" part is becoming very much secondary. Yes, it's not 1988 anymore and they are more mobile computers that can also do calls. There was a recent case of a young lad who got stabbed in London. What did he do - call for an ambulance? No, he Facetimed his mum who had to work out where he was and she then called the emergency services who managed to get there in time to save him. Maybe I'm just getting old but :wtf: --- End quote --- Below a certain age "get mum" is the normal reaction in dire circumstances, it's not unnatural at all. It may not have been the optimum response, but it's quite understandable. Most men don't truly accept their own mortality until they are 35 or so, if you're truly young it's probably inconceivable that mum won't be able to fix it, she has every time you've needed her to so far. |
| Bassman59:
--- Quote from: xrunner on August 14, 2021, 10:40:02 am --- --- Quote from: Rick Law on August 13, 2021, 07:25:41 pm ---This is a bit of a rant, but more so I wish manufacturers/developers of products would think about how their products are used and how the design should take that into consideration. About a week ago, I activated a new phone, all is well... I turned the phone off for a duration, and turned it back on to make a call. It powered up directly into an update screen and provide no way to pause or to stop it... Took about 20 minutes for the updates and it went directly to "optimize application" that took about another 10-20 minutes! Between download/install/optimized, I was unable to make a call for 30-40 minutes. ... --- End quote --- Some do understand - my iPhone 6s has never done that a single time. Come to think of it, no iPhone I've had has ever done that. :-// --- End quote --- Indeed, we have iPhones here and they never force an update. If you have auto updates turned on, they tell you that they'll update overnight when the phone is plugged into a charger. If auto-update is disabled, then you'll see a notification that an update is available but it will not start the update process until you explicitly allow it. I wonder why Rick didn't tell us which phone model by which manufacturer is causing him such trouble? I also don't understand his use case -- powering the phone down completely except when he needs to make a call. Nobody does that. The devices really aren't meant to be used in that manner. If you don't want the phone to ring during that all-important meeting, flick the switch to put it in silent mode. Or enable the "Do not disturb" feature. Comments in this thread like how "smartphones are only used by Chinese girls who spend 14 hours a day watching tiktok videos" veer off right into "OK, Boomer!" territory, with a dash of racism added. If you don't see a use case for the devices, that doesn't mean nobody has a use for the devices. As for the kid in London who Facetimed his mother instead of calling for an ambulance: that's not the phone's fault. On the iPhone lock screen lower left corner is the word "emergency." Tap that and it calls the emergency services. It's possible that nobody taught the kid that 911 (or whatever they're called in England) services exist. I'd say that the kid was pretty smart -- he was attacked and he still managed to hold it together enough to call someone! And if he was able to use the "send location" feature to let his mother know exactly where he was on the map, even better. |
| nali:
OK just for clarification the facetime lad was 16. I'm not going to link the article because it's largely irrelevent but the point I was making (perhaps not very well) was that actual 'phone calls are becoming pretty much secondary these days. |
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