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Re: I made a grave mistake!
« Reply #25 on: November 26, 2019, 08:32:21 am »
Go into the account theme settings (https://www.eevblog.com/forum/profile/?area=theme ) and change "show quick moderation" (or whatever it's called) to checkboxes. (No idea why the default for this seems to vary for different people, IIRC. Either that or it must be manually set and I did it so long ago I forgot.)

Thank you! That gets me the checkbox! :D

I think my chief complaint is the complexity of notification options and the way they are spread out all over the place. The "Notification" screen in the profile covers only topics you explicitly select to be notified about. The "notify me for replies" is a completely separate functionality that can not be disabled other than by deleting the post (or I'm too dumb to edit the post to remove the checkbox).
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Re: I made a grave mistake!
« Reply #26 on: November 26, 2019, 09:02:12 am »
I haven't experienced that myself, try looking for the posts in question, click on "modify" then "attachments and other options" and uncheck "notify me of replies"?

I just tried that - "modify" will not let you edit the notification options... |O

So, deleting your post seems to be the only option (apart from a global "ignore this thread") that will work.

FWIW it works for me, I used this topic to check:

Had asked for notifications in my first contribution (to what now looks like yet another derailing subject), once I got the notification tggzzz had replied I came back and edited my post by only un-checking the notification box.

Haven't been getting the hassle since.
Maybe you need to uncheck on several posts in a same topic? (PITA I must say...)

I checked, there are none. And, please go back to the post you edited and check if the "notify me" box is really cleared. I had assumed it was, but each time I went back to the post it was checked on again.

PITA, indeed. I'm glad it's not just me.

Just been back, "notify" box is still cleared in this case, and I'm not receiving notifications.
You have actually saved modifications after un-checking box?

As a second test I'm checking "notify" on this post. (So it will be edited sooner or later.)
I'll also try re-checking "notify" on a previous post to be sure they all need clearing after...
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Re: I made a grave mistake!
« Reply #27 on: November 26, 2019, 09:30:04 am »
Just been back, "notify" box is still cleared in this case, and I'm not receiving notifications.
You have actually saved modifications after un-checking box?

As a second test I'm checking "notify" on this post. (So it will be edited sooner or later.)
I'll also try re-checking "notify" on a previous post to be sure they all need clearing after...

I tried again with my reply #25, no workee... I uncheck the "notify me" box, "Save", and when I edit the post afterwards the box is checked again. Weird.
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Re: I made a grave mistake!
« Reply #28 on: November 26, 2019, 09:46:50 am »
The way it works for me on this topic is: "notify" on any post checks "notify" on all my other posts of the topic, likewise for clearing "notify".
I dare not give it a try in the TEA thread from fear of being stuck in your situation, next I'll be having nightmares of dragons and papa smurfs...  :blah:

Have you tried logging off, clearing browser cache, cookies stuff like that? I'd at least try re-logging...
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Re: I made a grave mistake!
« Reply #29 on: November 26, 2019, 04:06:48 pm »
I have had a smartphone for about 7 years now, and for at least the last 4 or 5, I had it *permanently* silenced; I mean NO ringers, NO bloops or blurps, no dings, no rings, NO notifications, no vibrations... NOTHING, because someone ELSE'S "urgent" ain't MY "urgent".
I trained myself by deliberately using an old clamshell phone for about a decade.  When I switched to a smartphone a few years ago, I had zero need for anything else but a basic phone and a browser (for local bus, train, and metro timetables and public transport travel planner, which happens to be excellent here, and very useful because I use public transport exclusively).  I do not have anything personal installed on the thing, especially not email.

When I go for a walk in the nearby park, or go grocery shopping, that thing ain't coming with me.

On the other hand, I've never had any kind of interest or urge to be on social media like Twatter, Fakebook, Instagrand, or such.

When I was younger, before the turn of the century, having grown up in the frozen wastelands of the far north where one went to the local library for information, and recently gained access to the scientific knowledge and research from all around the world, I did use to be afraid of falling behind.  The sphere of human activity is so large that the daily advancements in knowledge seemed to indicate an inhuman rate of expansion of that sphere.. but it isn't.  If you have true understanding (as opposed to memorization), and stay out of your field for a few years, all you need is a few weeks to completely catch up.  The boundary is large and therefore the volume expansion rate is utterly amazing, but in any single field, the boundary is nothing you cannot catch up to even at a leisurely pace.

What changes at a hard-to-understand rate, is human opinion and politics.  But, once you accept being plain ol' yourself and drop the need to go with the apparent flow, even that is not at all important, just feels silly.  My point is, there is no need to fear of falling behind, and no need to be continuously "connected".  Much better to be yourself and stop to smell the flowers once in a while.  I only wish somebody had told me this when I was younger.
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Re: I made a grave mistake!
« Reply #30 on: November 27, 2019, 02:55:00 am »
I have had a smartphone for about 7 years now, and for at least the last 4 or 5, I had it *permanently* silenced; I mean NO ringers, NO bloops or blurps, no dings, no rings, NO notifications, no vibrations... NOTHING, because someone ELSE'S "urgent" ain't MY "urgent".
I trained myself by deliberately using an old clamshell phone for about a decade.  When I switched to a smartphone a few years ago, I had zero need for anything else but a basic phone and a browser (for local bus, train, and metro timetables and public transport travel planner, which happens to be excellent here, and very useful because I use public transport exclusively).  I do not have anything personal installed on the thing, especially not email.

When I go for a walk in the nearby park, or go grocery shopping, that thing ain't coming with me.

On the other hand, I've never had any kind of interest or urge to be on social media like Twatter, Fakebook, Instagrand, or such.

When I was younger, before the turn of the century, having grown up in the frozen wastelands of the far north where one went to the local library for information, and recently gained access to the scientific knowledge and research from all around the world, I did use to be afraid of falling behind.  The sphere of human activity is so large that the daily advancements in knowledge seemed to indicate an inhuman rate of expansion of that sphere.. but it isn't.  If you have true understanding (as opposed to memorization), and stay out of your field for a few years, all you need is a few weeks to completely catch up.  The boundary is large and therefore the volume expansion rate is utterly amazing, but in any single field, the boundary is nothing you cannot catch up to even at a leisurely pace.

What changes at a hard-to-understand rate, is human opinion and politics.  But, once you accept being plain ol' yourself and drop the need to go with the apparent flow, even that is not at all important, just feels silly.  My point is, there is no need to fear of falling behind, and no need to be continuously "connected".  Much better to be yourself and stop to smell the flowers once in a while.  I only wish somebody had told me this when I was younger.

I find lots of wisdom in your sentiments, and I agree whole-heartedly. Ecclesiastes seems to sum up the ever-present tail-chasing arrogance and need to be seen as "innovating" of the human race; it can come across as a little gloomy, but when you sit back and ponder over the simplicity of how it's expressed, it is UTTERLY true:


Ecclesiastes 3: 1-11:

"3 What do people gain from all their labors
    at which they toil under the sun?
4 Generations come and generations go,
    but the earth remains forever.
5 The sun rises and the sun sets,
    and hurries back to where it rises.
6 The wind blows to the south
    and turns to the north;
round and round it goes,
    ever returning on its course.
7 All streams flow into the sea,
    yet the sea is never full.
To the place the streams come from,
    there they return again.
8 All things are wearisome,
    more than one can say.
The eye never has enough of seeing,
    nor the ear its fill of hearing.
9 What has been will be again,
    what has been done will be done again;
    there is nothing new under the sun.
10 Is there anything of which one can say,
    “Look! This is something new”?
It was here already, long ago;
    it was here before our time.
11 No one remembers the former generations,
    and even those yet to come
will not be remembered
    by those who follow them."


SO many people assume we are "high tech" and have "advanced" by huge leaps and bounds, and what I say in reply is... er, nope. A few things have improved significantly, but stand back and look at the bigger picture, how humanity STILL gravitates to selfishness and stupidity by default, how we STILL burn things to make steam to turn a propellor for most of our power, how some people STILL suck on smoking bundles of dried, shredded leaves, and drink poison as "recreation". What, I feel, is one of the many indicators that we are NOWHERE NEAR as remotely "advanced" as we think we are, is the fact that we THINK it, and that many crow about it, no end.

We are not "advanced" when you consider that we still need to use robots and PCs to "design" & build junk which behaves WORSE, and lasts FAR less time than things build thousands of years ago, which are still working, and have lasted all that time. We STILL can't work out how the pyramids were constructed (and no "theories" count for a thing; when something is obvious, a "theory" isn't needed, and since it ISN'T obvious, we can't be as "advanced" as we foolishly assume.)
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Re: I made a grave mistake!
« Reply #31 on: November 27, 2019, 04:10:50 pm »
I have had a smartphone for about 7 years now, and for at least the last 4 or 5, I had it *permanently* silenced; I mean NO ringers, NO bloops or blurps, no dings, no rings, NO notifications, no vibrations... NOTHING, because someone ELSE'S "urgent" ain't MY "urgent".
I trained myself by deliberately using an old clamshell phone for about a decade.  When I switched to a smartphone a few years ago, I had zero need for anything else but a basic phone and a browser (for local bus, train, and metro timetables and public transport travel planner, which happens to be excellent here, and very useful because I use public transport exclusively).  I do not have anything personal installed on the thing, especially not email.

When I go for a walk in the nearby park, or go grocery shopping, that thing ain't coming with me.

On the other hand, I've never had any kind of interest or urge to be on social media like Twatter, Fakebook, Instagrand, or such.

When I was younger, before the turn of the century, having grown up in the frozen wastelands of the far north where one went to the local library for information, and recently gained access to the scientific knowledge and research from all around the world, I did use to be afraid of falling behind.  The sphere of human activity is so large that the daily advancements in knowledge seemed to indicate an inhuman rate of expansion of that sphere.. but it isn't.  If you have true understanding (as opposed to memorization), and stay out of your field for a few years, all you need is a few weeks to completely catch up.  The boundary is large and therefore the volume expansion rate is utterly amazing, but in any single field, the boundary is nothing you cannot catch up to even at a leisurely pace.

What changes at a hard-to-understand rate, is human opinion and politics.  But, once you accept being plain ol' yourself and drop the need to go with the apparent flow, even that is not at all important, just feels silly.  My point is, there is no need to fear of falling behind, and no need to be continuously "connected".  Much better to be yourself and stop to smell the flowers once in a while.  I only wish somebody had told me this when I was younger.

I find lots of wisdom in your sentiments, and I agree whole-heartedly. Ecclesiastes seems to sum up the ever-present tail-chasing arrogance and need to be seen as "innovating" of the human race; it can come across as a little gloomy, but when you sit back and ponder over the simplicity of how it's expressed, it is UTTERLY true:


Ecclesiastes 3: 1-11:

"3 What do people gain from all their labors
    at which they toil under the sun?
4 Generations come and generations go,
    but the earth remains forever.
5 The sun rises and the sun sets,
    and hurries back to where it rises.
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Re: I made a grave mistake!
« Reply #32 on: November 27, 2019, 04:44:33 pm »
I have had a smartphone for about 7 years now, and for at least the last 4 or 5, I had it *permanently* silenced; I mean NO ringers, NO bloops or blurps, no dings, no rings, NO notifications, no vibrations... NOTHING, because someone ELSE'S "urgent" ain't MY "urgent".
I trained myself by deliberately using an old clamshell phone for about a decade.  When I switched to a smartphone a few years ago, I had zero need for anything else but a basic phone and a browser (for local bus, train, and metro timetables and public transport travel planner, which happens to be excellent here, and very useful because I use public transport exclusively).  I do not have anything personal installed on the thing, especially not email.

When I go for a walk in the nearby park, or go grocery shopping, that thing ain't coming with me.

On the other hand, I've never had any kind of interest or urge to be on social media like Twatter, Fakebook, Instagrand, or such.

When I was younger, before the turn of the century, having grown up in the frozen wastelands of the far north where one went to the local library for information, and recently gained access to the scientific knowledge and research from all around the world, I did use to be afraid of falling behind.  The sphere of human activity is so large that the daily advancements in knowledge seemed to indicate an inhuman rate of expansion of that sphere.. but it isn't.  If you have true understanding (as opposed to memorization), and stay out of your field for a few years, all you need is a few weeks to completely catch up.  The boundary is large and therefore the volume expansion rate is utterly amazing, but in any single field, the boundary is nothing you cannot catch up to even at a leisurely pace.

What changes at a hard-to-understand rate, is human opinion and politics.  But, once you accept being plain ol' yourself and drop the need to go with the apparent flow, even that is not at all important, just feels silly.  My point is, there is no need to fear of falling behind, and no need to be continuously "connected".  Much better to be yourself and stop to smell the flowers once in a while.  I only wish somebody had told me this when I was younger.

I find lots of wisdom in your sentiments, and I agree whole-heartedly. Ecclesiastes seems to sum up the ever-present tail-chasing arrogance and need to be seen as "innovating" of the human race; it can come across as a little gloomy, but when you sit back and ponder over the simplicity of how it's expressed, it is UTTERLY true:


Ecclesiastes 3: 1-11:

"3 What do people gain from all their labors
    at which they toil under the sun?
4 Generations come and generations go,
    but the earth remains forever.
5 The sun rises and the sun sets,
    and hurries back to where it rises.
6 The wind blows to the south
    and turns to the north;
round and round it goes,
    ever returning on its course.
7 All streams flow into the sea,
    yet the sea is never full.
To the place the streams come from,
    there they return again.
8 All things are wearisome,
    more than one can say.
The eye never has enough of seeing,
    nor the ear its fill of hearing.
9 What has been will be again,
    what has been done will be done again;
    there is nothing new under the sun.
10 Is there anything of which one can say,
    “Look! This is something new”?
It was here already, long ago;
    it was here before our time.
11 No one remembers the former generations,
    and even those yet to come
will not be remembered
    by those who follow them."


SO many people assume we are "high tech" and have "advanced" by huge leaps and bounds, and what I say in reply is... er, nope. A few things have improved significantly, but stand back and look at the bigger picture, how humanity STILL gravitates to selfishness and stupidity by default, how we STILL burn things to make steam to turn a propellor for most of our power, how some people STILL suck on smoking bundles of dried, shredded leaves, and drink poison as "recreation". What, I feel, is one of the many indicators that we are NOWHERE NEAR as remotely "advanced" as we think we are, is the fact that we THINK it, and that many crow about it, no end.

We are not "advanced" when you consider that we still need to use robots and PCs to "design" & build junk which behaves WORSE, and lasts FAR less time than things build thousands of years ago, which are still working, and have lasted all that time. We STILL can't work out how the pyramids were constructed (and no "theories" count for a thing; when something is obvious, a "theory" isn't needed, and since it ISN'T obvious, we can't be as "advanced" as we foolishly assume.)

Okay. So long as you remember these same rules when anyone mentions ANYTHING about the religion of "evolution" or "flat earth". I'll abide by your rules, no issues.
 

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Re: I made a grave mistake!
« Reply #33 on: November 27, 2019, 05:35:57 pm »
Yep, dog help usa unsubscribe from the tea topic!
 

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Re: I made a grave mistake!
« Reply #34 on: November 27, 2019, 07:26:24 pm »
Great. I tried to get rid of a ghost, now I have summoned another one. Woe me...
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Re: I made a grave mistake!
« Reply #35 on: November 27, 2019, 09:27:24 pm »
We are not "advanced" when you consider that we still need to use robots and PCs to "design" & build junk which behaves WORSE, and lasts FAR less time than things build thousands of years ago, which are still working, and have lasted all that time. We STILL can't work out how the pyramids were constructed (and no "theories" count for a thing; when something is obvious, a "theory" isn't needed, and since it ISN'T obvious, we can't be as "advanced" as we foolishly assume.)
Oh boy, this old “just a theory” crap... please go learn what a scientific theory is. It’s NOT the same as a colloquial “theory” (which in science-talk is a “hypothesis”). A scientific theory is a tiny step removed from a “law”: essentially beyond question.
 


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