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I'm on Wikipedia
« on: January 01, 2015, 11:17:25 pm »
It seems someone put me up on Wikipedia:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_L._Jones
Been there since October but first I've heard of it.
I've heard that people have tried a few times before but it's been removed, so no idea how they snuck me through this time.
I guess it needs some "secondary or tertiary sources" to stay around?
 

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Re: I'm on Wikipedia
« Reply #1 on: January 01, 2015, 11:26:15 pm »
Someone please edit it to include a reference to Dave's hobby of cross-dressing.   :-DD

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Re: I'm on Wikipedia
« Reply #2 on: January 01, 2015, 11:32:08 pm »
Someone please edit it to include a reference to Dave's hobby of cross-dressing.   :-DD

Yes, I can just picture it when the haters get a hold of it  ;D
 

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Re: I'm on Wikipedia
« Reply #3 on: January 01, 2015, 11:36:05 pm »
Well, how do you feel?  :)
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Re: I'm on Wikipedia
« Reply #4 on: January 01, 2015, 11:36:19 pm »
BTW< the person who pointed me to this wanted to know if it's possible to have a complete list of episodes on Wikipedia. I doubt it would be allowed.
 

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Re: I'm on Wikipedia
« Reply #5 on: January 01, 2015, 11:59:47 pm »
A listing of episodes is allowed on wikipedia.
Lots of TV shows have them.

But they are not put on the main wiki page for the TV show.
They're on a separate page titled in the format..
"List of <showname> episodes"

You then link to that page from the main wiki page.

I guess its to keep the main page free from pages and pages of stuff.

eg http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Sanctuary_episodes
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Re: I'm on Wikipedia
« Reply #6 on: January 02, 2015, 12:05:22 am »
A listing of episodes is allowed on wikipedia.
Lots of TV shows have them.

Yeah, but I was referring to to the importance of it. I've seen other list pages get removed because of that.
 

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Re: I'm on Wikipedia
« Reply #7 on: January 02, 2015, 12:24:31 am »
It's all about the references. We need to build them up.
They are much less likely to remove stuff when they see it linking to already existing pages.

Now that there's a David L. Jones wiki page we have more options to get other things added.

Next step maybe getting you added here
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_YouTube_personalities

I'm trying to find my old login for Wikipedia but am having trouble remembering it.
Creating a new account, then adding stuff, usually gets it deleted real fast.

If anyone else has an account and wants to try then here's some links to use for the references down the bottom
http://hackaday.com/tag/dave-jones/
http://www.eeweb.com/spotlight/interview-with-david-l.-jones
http://www.extech.com/instruments/press.asp?pressid=06072010

With a main page, and an entry on the YouTube_personalities page, an episode list page will have a few things to link to and will be more likely to stick.


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Re: I'm on Wikipedia
« Reply #8 on: January 02, 2015, 12:32:35 am »
Now that there's a Dave Johns wiki page we have more options to get other things added.

Chris and I have always wanted an Amp Hour page, so maybe that might be possible in the future now.

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Next step is getting you added here
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_YouTube_personalities

I have this talk if that helps:

and a photo here that is creative commons attribution:
https://www.flickr.com/photos/eevblog/14121700995/in/set-72157644489434056
 

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Re: I'm on Wikipedia
« Reply #9 on: January 02, 2015, 12:34:46 am »
We could also try adding a bit to the Extech_Instruments page about the eevblog multimeter shootout they have reference on their website.
But i'm not sure how appropriate it is.

Could try adding something to hackaday wikipedia page.
But again, it needs to seem legit.
If we can find any reference on news pages to any hackaday stuff featuring eevblog videos then we can definitely add that, they have a section on their page for it.

The more pages we can get with eevblog legitimately referenced the better.
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Re: I'm on Wikipedia
« Reply #10 on: January 02, 2015, 12:48:05 am »
If we can find any reference on news pages to any hackaday stuff featuring eevblog videos then we can definitely add that, they have a section on their page for it.

I was a judge in the Hackaday contest:
http://hackaday.com/2014/07/01/judge-spotlight-dave-jones/
 

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Re: I'm on Wikipedia
« Reply #11 on: January 02, 2015, 01:19:25 am »
Worth a try.
Still looking for my wikipedia login info.
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Re: I'm on Wikipedia
« Reply #12 on: January 02, 2015, 02:01:06 am »
and I wouldn't want to get confused with any other David Jones'
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Jones
 

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Re: I'm on Wikipedia
« Reply #13 on: January 02, 2015, 05:54:11 pm »
and I wouldn't want to get confused with any other David Jones'
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Jones
When I see that page I can only agree it was a smart idea to name your son Sagan  :)
 

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Re: I'm on Wikipedia
« Reply #14 on: January 02, 2015, 09:25:44 pm »
It's a bit late but congratulations!
Ha-ha-ha. That's good, too!
 

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Re: I'm on Wikipedia
« Reply #15 on: January 03, 2015, 04:06:42 pm »
I went ahead and added the Hackaday page Dave posted, and mentioned him being a judge in their contest. The page looks alright, but we need someone to come in and format the main body paragraph. Every time Dave does something notable we can't just slap a sentence about it into the middle of the wiki main paragraph. (Yeah, I realize thats what I just did :palm:) I would suggest someone break down the page into an about section, talking about who Dave is, and then have a separate sections talking about Dave's accomplishments, video list, etc.   
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Re: I'm on Wikipedia
« Reply #16 on: January 03, 2015, 11:43:27 pm »
You may want to list the FLUKE literature about meter ruggedness where Dave's video (#66) is linked to:

http://en-us.fluke.com/community/fluke-news-plus/how-robust-is-your-handheld-meter.html
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Re: I'm on Wikipedia
« Reply #17 on: January 03, 2015, 11:49:05 pm »
You may want to list the FLUKE literature about meter ruggedness where Dave's video (#66) is linked to:

http://en-us.fluke.com/community/fluke-news-plus/how-robust-is-your-handheld-meter.html
Where? I couldn't find a link to Dave's video on that page.
 

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Re: I'm on Wikipedia
« Reply #18 on: January 03, 2015, 11:52:41 pm »
The last word is the link:

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Re: I'm on Wikipedia
« Reply #19 on: January 04, 2015, 12:59:53 am »
Nice. I'm on Wikipedia, too, at least one of my projects, and I didn't create the page either:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lua_Player
But the page is flagged that it has some issues, let's see how long it lasts :) Lua Player is nearly dead anyway now. Maybe time to port it to the smartphone world, no one uses the PSP anymore.

When someone notified me that the page exists, I removed some spam and fixed some minor bugs from time to time (you can create a "watchlist" of Wikipedia pages to see changes, if you are registered at Wikipedia). So Dave, I think it is ok if you edit your own Wikipedia page, if you follow the Wikipedia policies and guidelines.
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Re: I'm on Wikipedia
« Reply #20 on: January 04, 2015, 01:49:35 am »
Personal biographical Wikipedia pages usually have a consistent format with an about box and photo on the right side. It doesn't look like it's a proper page unless it has those.
I think as it's currently formatted and with the lack of info it does still stand a change of being deleted for being incomplete/insufficient info?
So wouldn't surprise me if it vanishes again at this point.
Of course The Amp Hour should be mentioned.
 

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Re: I'm on Wikipedia
« Reply #21 on: January 04, 2015, 01:52:25 am »
So Dave, I think it is ok if you edit your own Wikipedia page, if you follow the Wikipedia policies and guidelines.

It's very much frowned upon due to conflict of interest:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Conflict_of_interest#Writing_about_yourself_and_your_work
Sure fire way to get the page deleted.

I've added a photo to Wikimedia, just say'n  ;)
[[File:David L Jones in his garage lab.jpg|thumb|David L Jones in his garage lab]]
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:David_L_Jones_in_his_garage_lab.jpg
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Re: I'm on Wikipedia
« Reply #22 on: January 04, 2015, 02:16:41 am »
It's very much frowned upon due to conflict of interest:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Conflict_of_interest#Writing_about_yourself_and_your_work
Sure fire way to get the page deleted.
But it says you can correct errors. I think it is a serious error that it doesn't look like other biographical Wikipedia pages with an image of you. And looks like other people edit their personal pages heavily, see for example the beginning in the revision history of the article about the lead engineer of the C128.

A short list of your products would be useful, too. For example the uCurrent is well known and worth mentioning. And it solves a problem of many other amperemeters and you can even link to the relevant Wikipedia articles ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Multimeter#Burden_voltage ).
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Re: I'm on Wikipedia
« Reply #23 on: January 04, 2015, 02:22:02 am »
But it says you can correct errors.

Yes, technically I can correct errors or remove unreferenced material. e.g. someone added "and self confessed "dork"" without any reference which of course doesn't belong in a Wikpedia biography page.

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I think it is a serious error that it doesn't look like other biographical Wikipedia pages with an image of you.

Yes, if it stays like it is, I'm pretty sure it does risk deletion, as has happened before when people have done one.
In fact there isn't one correctly referenced link in there. There are supposed to be reference numbers next to the text where appropriate.
I'm surprised the page didn't get quickly deleted, the biography wikinazis must be sleeping  ;D
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Re: I'm on Wikipedia
« Reply #24 on: January 04, 2015, 05:21:46 am »
fixed
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