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Illegal to order from Chinese fabs, export control?
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edpalmer42:
In order to get to the twit this package was first cleared by U.S. Customs & Border Protection.  I think they know the laws better than some university droid.  You could give them a call and see what they say.  If you have a tracking number, they might be able to look that up and tell you what they decided on that package.

Ultimately, you have two choices.  Shrug and walk away or phone the police and charge him with theft.
pigrew:
I've not experienced any issues when ordering PCBs lately (other than the purchasing department grumbling about overseas payments), and I have not heard anything about new policy changes.

I can imagine if the PCB had mm-wave circuits or was designed for aerospace, that the layout itself could be ITAR restricted.

I've also heard of universities black-listing some of the inexpensive Chinese PCB fabs, due to poor quality control.

It sounds like in this case, it's "PCBs are bad" with little nuance.

I would suggest having an faculty/staff member investigate. A lot of the time, business & receiving staff won't give (much) help to students.
Halcyon:
I don't understand how someone who works in a loading dock has any rights to your personal mail. It sounds bizarre to me.
mikeselectricstuff:

--- Quote from: axemaster on April 24, 2022, 02:33:40 pm ---However, the Export Control Officer for my university seized the package from the loading dock and is refusing to deliver it to me. He claims that it is illegal for us to use Chinese fabricators, and if the package was delivered to me, it would be "a violation that would have to be reported to the federal government".

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You might want to start by pointing out to him (and his boss) that it is an import, not an export, and that with his job title he ought to know the difference.

rsjsouza:

--- Quote from: mikeselectricstuff on April 24, 2022, 10:56:49 pm ---
--- Quote from: axemaster on April 24, 2022, 02:33:40 pm ---However, the Export Control Officer for my university seized the package from the loading dock and is refusing to deliver it to me. He claims that it is illegal for us to use Chinese fabricators, and if the package was delivered to me, it would be "a violation that would have to be reported to the federal government".

--- End quote ---
You might want to start by pointing out to him (and his boss) that it is an import, not an export, and that with his job title he ought to know the difference.

--- End quote ---
That is quite a bizarre situation. Sorry you got entangled.

As above (as well as mentioned by edpalmer42 and jonpaul), the package was already cleared to enter the US border by the CBP and the export of files is a separate matter. The seizure of the package in the university premises exposes them to theft investigation - if it is via USPS, that would have one more layer as it has federal scope.

Oh well... Let's hope that your advisor or someone else with actual brains solves this issue without hassle.
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