ilogical resteraunt menu

[Kerlin]

Went to a pub, wasn't aware my programmers mind was switched on, read the menu .......Fish with chips and salad or vegetables.
Some one asked can you get chips with vegetables, I checked again and I saw ....Fish with chips and salad, OR vegetables. so I said no you cant.
Because logical complements ( not ) are performed first, logical conjunctions ( and ) are performed next, and logical disjunctions ( or ) are performed next.
Cash register operator said Yes you can get chips with vegatables, so menu should read...........Fish with chips, AND salad OR vegetables.

DOH, Suddenly realized I was thinking in Boolean without even knowing it and went into an LOL when I realized it.

 

[PCB.Wiz]

Hehe, just had the same thing happen with a credit card.
It was $5, and terminal menu said PIN OR ENTER
So, I did exactly what it said, and just pressed enter. 

It failed, turns out that really mean PIN THEN ENTER ( or PIN AND ENTER)

[brucehoult]

Usually that means in you don't have a PIN then you press ENTER and sign instead.

Weirdly, most shops / machines in the USA don't accept PIN verification even when your (foreign) card normally uses one.

[xrunner]

Went to buy some things at Home Depot. At the self checkout I scanned it all and then the option is presented

"PAY NOW"

I asked the lady monitoring the self checkout "Do you know who NOW is? I'm supposed to pay them, but I can't find anyone named "NOW"

 

[Veteran68]

Usually that means in you don't have a PIN then you press ENTER and sign instead.

Weirdly, most shops / machines in the USA don't accept PIN verification even when your (foreign) card normally uses one.

Yeah here in the US we don't use a PIN for a POS credit transaction, only for debit transactions. And a VISA or MC network debit card can (in most places) be run as credit/signature without a PIN, but the PIN is required if you're getting cash back. The annoying thing is different POS terminals handle this differently -- some expect you to hit ENTER to run a debit card as a signature transaction while others expect you to hit X/CANCEL to do so. At new terminals I inevitably hit the wrong thing and have to start over, LOL.

[T3sl4co1l]

Wife: "Can you go down to the store and get a gallon of milk, and if they have eggs, get six?"

Her programmer husband returned with six gallons of milk.

Tim

[amyk]

That would be much clearer as: Fish with chips and (salad or vegetables) .

[pickle9000]

crap I've done that

[5U4GB]

Because logical complements ( not ) are performed first, logical conjunctions ( and ) are performed next, and logical disjunctions ( or ) are performed next.
Cash register operator said Yes you can get chips with vegatables, so menu should read...........Fish with chips, AND salad OR vegetables.

Did they also back away from you slightly, and cast warning glances to the other staff?

[Nominal Animal]

Am I the only one who always reads POS (point-of-sales) as piece-of-shit? 

[audiotubes]

Am I the only one who always reads POS (point-of-sales) as piece-of-shit? 

No, you're not. POS Technology is very much a thing! I remember when CMOS came out, somebody defined what POS meant, even before point of sale was a glint in anyone's eye.

As to the restaurant menu issue, "two from column A and one from column B" is just easier

[Messtechniker]

Missus: Could you please go down to the basement and see if there is any white wine?
Me: Came back with the answer: "Yes".
Missus: I expected you to bring the white wine!

Girls and boys will never understand each other. Go figure.

[babysitter]

Hey guys, you know Borat or Ali G or Brüno?
The actor has a brother.
The actors brother developed a questionaire with a evaluation procedure.
You should consider trying it.

Edit: bold text marks change.
Clarified that its the actors brother, not the brother of the brother of the actor.
This edit itself might be related to the topic.

[harerod]

Quote from: Nominal Animal on Today at 06:31:40

Am I the only one who always reads POS (point-of-sales) as piece-of-shit? 

I think audiotubes will enjoy this story:
A couple of months ago I attended a wedding reception and this MBA lady was introduced to me by the groom. She explained that her work was related to POS (much more ambiguous the way she expressed herself in German). Well, I bit my tongue and let it go. Sure as heck it turned out that this lady was seated right next to me. A couple of hours later we did some pleasant smalltalk at the table, when I couldn't keep myself from saying "I prefer people to define TLA's before using them with newcomers. Say, for example, in linguistics POS stands for part of speech, but often I see it used for piece of shit. However I assume that you meant point of sales?" After that I had to explain the TLA TLA. Not to be unkind, she took my quip quite gracefully.

[DavidAlfa]

Why did you put yourself at risk for some vegetables?
"Pizza"is much safer, just avoid the pinneapple, Italians said enough is enough, people is getting stabbed with sharp broken pasta.

[nctnico]

Sometimes I'm outright cruel. A while ago a cassier at a hardware store asked me 'are you in our system yet?' I answered: 'no, I'm standing right here'.

Another one I like to pull out is when people tell me they are looking in their computer. I typically point out that looking at the screen will be more helpfull 

right brainer: you should insist on bracketting... (fish + chip) & (salad | veggy)

In most restaurants you can order whatever you like as they charge for extra side dishes. Only on very rare occasions you'll be told you have to make a choice.

[IDEngineer]

At the Post Office, when they display the "does your parcel contain any hazardous materials" prompt, the YES button is green and the NO button is red.

Guess what happens.

[xrunner]

Was walking around a local hospital while waiting on my mom to finish her appointment with a doctor in another building some years ago. Occasionally they would have tables set up to promote awareness of different health issues with pamphlets and such things to give away.

One time they had a table with these things and two ladies behind it to talk to people. The table had a sign that said -

Fall Prevention

I thought about it for a second and said the following to the ladies -

"I know you have good intentions, but there is no way to prevent Fall. It is caused by the orbit of the Earth and the tilt of its axis. You cannot in any way prevent Fall."

One of the ladies thought about what I said and giggled a bit.

The other one ... well let's just say she was not amused.

 

[Nominal Animal]

It's not the Fall that is nasty; it's the cold hard that hits you when it ends.

[NorthGuy]

That would be much clearer as: Fish with chips and (salad or vegetables) .

If you really a programmer you would think of them as bit flags and the whole expression would be quite different from the naive restaurant approach

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fish | chips | (choice ? salad : vagetables)

[electr_peter]

Even logical orders can be confusing

[IDEngineer]

Copious use of parentheses resolves questions of precedence, even for those people who don't know the rules. Or those compilers that don't follow the set of rules you think they do.

[coppice]

Missus: Could you please go down to the basement and see if there is any white wine?
Me: Came back with the answer: "Yes".
Missus: I expected you to bring the white wine!

Girls and boys will never understand each other. Go figure.

There is a class of person for whom this goes
Missus: Could you please go down to the basement and see if there is any white wine?
Me: If there is, how much should I bring back
Missus: <annoyed rant, because she hadn't thought things through this far, and was hoping someone else would resolve key details>

[coppice]

Copious use of parentheses resolves questions of precedence, even for those people who don't know the rules. Or those compilers that don't follow the set of rules you think they do.

Would that really be parentheses, or brackets? Others on this forum make fine distinctions, even though various dictionaries can't agree on the precise meaning of the - various - words (which) can [be] used {to} describe this effect.

[IDEngineer]

I meant parentheses, the curved ones, not brackets nor braces. Parentheses are generally the characters used by C and Pascal and their many derivatives, which together represent the largest percentage of present day programming languages, in expressions involving math or logic. Brackets are more commonly used for array indexing and braces for initializing functions, arrays, etc.

I'm sure there are many exceptions and for the intent of this thread we don't need to make a big deal out of that.