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Imminent Collapse of Fry’s?
Renate:
--- Quote from: MikeK on February 24, 2021, 06:56:13 pm ---They should have held demos, had classes...
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Funny, I tried to convince one store owner a while ago that only a radical turn in this direction would save things.
Maker spaces is another thing.
Given the choice between:
* Buying a milling machine
* Contracting out some work
* Paying to let me do the darn milling myself!You know what my choice is!
langwadt:
--- Quote from: nctnico on February 24, 2021, 07:21:20 pm ---
--- Quote from: engrguy42 on February 24, 2021, 06:20:15 pm ---Nobody would question the fact that the retail industry has been destroyed by peoples' desire to buy from Amazon and China.
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Not at all. The retail industry has destroyed itself by only selling high margin items. Every time I go to a store they don't have what I need. There simply is much more choice and stock online so I stopped going to stores. You read it in every story about Fry's for the past couple of years: nothing in store. How can a store make money if they don't have what people need?
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and how would they afford a large stock they very rarely sell because everyone buys things online because it is cheaper?
nctnico:
--- Quote from: langwadt on February 24, 2021, 07:41:40 pm ---
--- Quote from: nctnico on February 24, 2021, 07:21:20 pm ---
--- Quote from: engrguy42 on February 24, 2021, 06:20:15 pm ---Nobody would question the fact that the retail industry has been destroyed by peoples' desire to buy from Amazon and China.
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Not at all. The retail industry has destroyed itself by only selling high margin items. Every time I go to a store they don't have what I need. There simply is much more choice and stock online so I stopped going to stores. You read it in every story about Fry's for the past couple of years: nothing in store. How can a store make money if they don't have what people need?
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and how would they afford a large stock they very rarely sell because everyone buys things online because it is cheaper?
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Negotiate a better deal with the landlord to pay less rent. This seems to work in Germany where shops are much cheaper and you still find small stores which serve niches like model railways. In the Netherlands the situation is reversed. 95% of the non-food shops are selling fashionable clothes or shoes; nothing functional. The only one making a profit from those shops is the landlord. But that situation is going to change rapidly; many stores are quiting. Especially in relatively expensive city centers. Covid-19 just helped to speed up the process.
langwadt:
--- Quote from: nctnico on February 24, 2021, 09:14:05 pm ---
--- Quote from: langwadt on February 24, 2021, 07:41:40 pm ---
--- Quote from: nctnico on February 24, 2021, 07:21:20 pm ---
--- Quote from: engrguy42 on February 24, 2021, 06:20:15 pm ---Nobody would question the fact that the retail industry has been destroyed by peoples' desire to buy from Amazon and China.
--- End quote ---
Not at all. The retail industry has destroyed itself by only selling high margin items. Every time I go to a store they don't have what I need. There simply is much more choice and stock online so I stopped going to stores. You read it in every story about Fry's for the past couple of years: nothing in store. How can a store make money if they don't have what people need?
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and how would they afford a large stock they very rarely sell because everyone buys things online because it is cheaper?
--- End quote ---
Negotiate a better deal with the landlord to pay less rent. This seems to work in Germany where shops are much cheaper and you still find small stores which serve niches like model railways. In the Netherlands the situation is reversed. 95% of the non-food shops are selling fashionable clothes or shoes; nothing functional. The only one making a profit from those shops is the landlord. But that situation is going to change rapidly; many stores are quiting. Especially in relatively expensive city centers. Covid-19 just helped to speed up the process.
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seems to me those small niche stores are someone passionate about the subject working long hours barely making ends meet, that is not a viable business plan for a chain of stores.
it's a chicken and egg problem, no ones buying because it is expensive, it is expensive because the only thing people buy is the occational 5 resistors they forgot to order online and need right now. And then people complain when they can't get digikey
assortment at ebay prices
coppercone2:
store that sell useful things need a tax reduction to stay profitable. They serve a useful purpose but cannot exist without a subsidy because there will be short term business that is more profitable, so you get retail chaos because of profit mentality. You have salary, rent and taxes. Rent & taxes you can do about because usually the land lord is not in the same class as the employees. You start to mess with base salary and you get protests. If you mess with rent you get angry rich people (no one really cares) and the taxes totally depends on the mindset of the politicians.
But with fights over right to repair and stuff, there is no real drive for these people to try to figure out what is useful to stock (say SMD passives for fixing devices). Someone would need to do alot of thinking about what parts to stock to make useful repairs possible and work out the advertising. The professional repair people don't want you to do it because they get more profit, and the companies selling you stuff would rather sell you anther one.
Here is a freebee : you can probobly make money selling different USB, Microusb, ports for most devices. Those always break off and the repair is obvious.
I think what it depends on is like normal people generally thinking 'why the hell did you buy a new one dumbass you should repair it' instead of 'sick, you dropped some cash on new stuff, its outdated anyway'.
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