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IMPORTANT POLL: Should there be an off-topic section?
Halcyon:
--- Quote from: tszaboo on September 07, 2022, 12:34:07 pm ---It happened to me several times that I typed a post, and then deleted it, because it was off topic, or political, and I didn't want to leave it to chance whether I get banned. So I ended up deleting it. It would be good to talk to people here (like minded people) about those topics without the fear of the ban hammer.
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You wouldn't get banned. That is a decision that is not made lightly. We are all human, and sometimes we say things without thinking... or even it's well thought-out but controversial. To get banned, you basically have to be a shit human (or spammer).
Ed.Kloonk:
--- Quote from: nctnico on September 07, 2022, 12:57:03 pm ---
--- Quote from: tszaboo on September 07, 2022, 12:34:07 pm ---It happened to me several times that I typed a post, and then deleted it, because it was off topic, or political, and I didn't want to leave it to chance whether I get banned. So I ended up deleting it. It would be good to talk to people here (like minded people) about those topics without the fear of the ban hammer.
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IMHO what you describe is a good thing. EEVBlog is right on the good side of the edge between technical and not-so-technical topics. My fear is that allowing more non-technical threads is going to lead to people really taking it out on each other due to difference of opinion and being 'on the spectrum'.
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Or it could be a great opportunity to help peeps with that kind of funk interact better. As suggested, it's only for active users so most of the quirks are near the surface already wouldn't you say?
I'd be interested to see a plan for what happens if someone does indeed fail the 'pub test'.
EEVblog:
--- Quote from: Halcyon on September 07, 2022, 12:49:55 pm ---I get that EEVblog started with humble beginnings but it has grown to be much more.
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Yes, I think the bigger the forum gets, the more time people will tend to spend on here, and the more they will feel it kinda like an online "home" rather then just some place they talk electronics. Like the water cooler at work.
--- Quote --- I'm in two minds... a completely off-topic forum can work well as long as it's implemented properly (what that looks like should be up for discussion). However, if you do choose to venture into that area, users need to be prepared to be offended, insulted etc... etc... Short of filtering for spam and obvious trolls, I don't see that it's our job to be moderating what people say in that kind of area. I think the rules need to be clear. Basically, apply the "pub test".
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Yes, I see the only basic rule being no personal attacks. I see no value in allowing that.
The existing rules already have the "you have no right NOT to be offended" part.
Obviously extreme stuff would not be allowed, like porn, graphic images, and absolute outright hatred and vitrol.
For all we know the section could become filled with boring office water cooler talk about flipping houses or something.
--- Quote ---On the other hand I'm mindful of this forum becoming like Whirlpool (Whingepool), which is an over-moderated mess of conflicting opinions and people with sand in their vagina. Even between the site owner and the long list of moderators, they can't keep their shit together. EEVblog should never be allowed to become that... never in a million years.
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I've heard Whirlpool being cited many times as a forum that was destroyed by moderation.
This forum has always had a pretty laid back approach to moderation, and I don't see that changing.
An off-topic section might even make the rest fo the forum better and more focussed? :-//
Ed.Kloonk:
--- Quote from: Halcyon on September 07, 2022, 12:59:28 pm ---
--- Quote from: EEVblog on September 07, 2022, 12:54:41 pm ---
--- Quote from: Jackster on September 07, 2022, 12:44:19 pm ---Xenforo allows you to ignore a category by default so it does not show up in Unread... Wink wink nudge nudge
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Xenforo fanboy alert! ;D
Yes, I like Xenforo, and if the forum software ever changed that would be my first choice.
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Well.... is it time to discuss that too? There are so many aspects of SMF that I hate (as both a moderator and a user). Or is that biting off more than we can chew at the moment?
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:palm:
Poor Geoff.
EEVblog:
--- Quote from: nctnico on September 07, 2022, 12:57:03 pm ---
--- Quote from: tszaboo on September 07, 2022, 12:34:07 pm ---It happened to me several times that I typed a post, and then deleted it, because it was off topic, or political, and I didn't want to leave it to chance whether I get banned. So I ended up deleting it. It would be good to talk to people here (like minded people) about those topics without the fear of the ban hammer.
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IMHO what you describe is a good thing. EEVBlog is right on the good side of the edge between technical and not-so-technical topics. My fear is that allowing more non-technical threads is going to lead to people really taking it out on each other due to difference of opinion and being 'on the spectrum'.
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That's always been my fear, but as the years have rolled on I've been seeing that happen more and more anyway, it doesn't seem to take much if any off-topic to trigger a fued.
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