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IMPORTANT POLL: Should there be an off-topic section?
PlainName:
--- Quote ---But keep in mind people are looking for a reasonable popular sub section to get sufficient attention.
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That's a good point, but I would suggest that popularity isn't necessarily desirable for what is a side dish. If someone wants to follow a plumbing rewire (don't know the right term - not a plumber) they would probably hang out in a plumbing offshoot, but they are really here for the electronics. If you need eyeballs then surely a pukka plumbing forum would be a better place to look for them.
Zeyneb:
--- Quote from: dunkemhigh on September 09, 2022, 07:53:56 pm ---
--- Quote ---But keep in mind people are looking for a reasonable popular sub section to get sufficient attention.
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That's a good point, but I would suggest that popularity isn't necessarily desirable for what is a side dish. If someone wants to follow a plumbing rewire (don't know the right term - not a plumber) they would probably hang out in a plumbing offshoot, but they are really here for the electronics. If you need eyeballs then surely a pukka plumbing forum would be a better place to look for them.
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Alright, I think that can be addressed by having good section titles and content that match the titles.
Brumby:
--- Quote from: Zeyneb on September 09, 2022, 07:47:33 pm ---So I do believe General Technical chat should be renamed to Community chat ...
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I'm here because the EEVblog follows a core theme that is represented by the first word in its name: Electronics.
As such, any "general" discussions benefit the purpose of the forum if they are directed towards that area of discussion. Having it titled "General Technical Chat" provides such a framework. I want people to stop and think about whether their idea for a thread that isn't "technical" is really worth publishing here. I know I've pulled myself back from starting a few threads because it really wasn't going to benefit anyone who comes here looking for technical engagement.
Changing the title (and, hence the definition) to something less specific is basically saying "we don't care about electronics being the core reason for the EEVblog's existence, so have at it". The fact that we already have a number of threads that fall outside this framework is one that I would prefer to not get any worse.
Brumby:
--- Quote from: m k on September 09, 2022, 05:51:13 pm ---Community moderation is functional only when community is actually moderating.
This has not happened, what has happened has been something else.
My guess is that before TEA this place has not been a primary environment.
Important yes, but more like a some sort of a mental sanctuary outside of mostly everything else, so secondary at best.
Then TEA turned the thing upside down and community moderation failed.
Gladiator bubble and origami bubble must be moderated differently.
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Community moderation in the TEA thread failed because there was a failure of a very small section of the membership which refused to acknowledge any wrong doing - and actively went on to justify their actions without regard to the community.
For community moderation to work, each and every member of that community must be prepared to consider their actions may have been inappropriate in the eyes of others - and that if there is a consensus of such, they need to respond accordingly. This has been happening for quite some time (clumsily on occasions, perhaps) with it being reasonably effective. Recalcitrant members not only prevent this from happening, but create significant problems along the way.
Could a different tack in Moderation have changed the outcome? Possibly. However, it must be made quite clear that there has been very little need for "advanced" moderation skills on the EEVblog since it has been quite well behaved for quite a long time. The recent kerfuffle was quite unique and escalated quickly. No-one was prepared for it.
tautech:
--- Quote from: Brumby on September 10, 2022, 01:19:38 am ---
--- Quote from: Zeyneb on September 09, 2022, 07:47:33 pm ---So I do believe General Technical chat should be renamed to Community chat ...
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I'm here because the EEVblog follows a core theme that is represented by the first word in its name: Electronics.
As such, any "general" discussions benefit the purpose of the forum if they are directed towards that area of discussion. Having it titled "General Technical Chat" provides such a framework. I want people to stop and think about whether their idea for a thread that isn't "technical" is really worth publishing here. I know I've pulled myself back from starting a few threads because it really wasn't going to benefit anyone who comes here looking for technical engagement.
Changing the title (and, hence the definition) to something less specific is basically saying "we don't care about electronics being the core reason for the EEVblog's existence, so have at it". The fact that we already have a number of threads that fall outside this framework is one that I would prefer to not get any worse.
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It should be clearly pointed out to you that quite recently the what is now General Technical Chat board was previously just General Chat as Dave changed the name of it and added Technical in an effort to get threads to remain ON Topic.
Therefore what Zeyneb is asking for is no more than a return to how things were and not some step into the abyss as you seem to imply.
It even seems from the URL that at one time it was just Chat however that may have been before 2013 when I joined.
https://www.eevblog.com/forum/chat/
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