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IMPORTANT POLL: Should there be an off-topic section?

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PlainName:

--- Quote ---Reporting behind the scenes is something else and lurkers are not the community.
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Why do you assume a non-public report must be from a lurker? Often, reporting is preferable to public calling out because it doesn't kick off a flame war and can be handled in the (forum's) preferred way.

wilfred:

--- Quote from: m k on September 10, 2022, 11:47:30 am ---Mood of post is also very important, somebody have used a phrase usual suspects, what its plurality means, if that is many vs. many then I think the community has a problem.


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I've read your post carefully. I'm going to guess from the Finnish flag English is not your first language. I had difficulty extracting the meaning in this sentence. Most native English speakers don't know what plurality means. Perhaps countries that have a first past the post electoral system it might not be so true. In Australia where we have a preferential voting system I'd hazard a guess not even 1 in a thousand would have a clue. I can say it means, to get the largest portion of votes in an election but still falling short of an absolute majority (half).

The phrase "the usual suspects" comes near the end of the film Casablanca (spoiler alert) where in response to the lead character Rick (played by Humphry Bogart) having just shot Major Strasse the local police commander says to his men  "Major Strasse has been shot, round up the usual suspects". Even though Major Strasse was shot in his presence. It means to appear to be doing something but really try to quietly return to the status quo.

It may not be what you were thinking but I think the group who get moved to report posts that concern them or members whom they disagree with are small in number (i.e. not a plurality or majority) and strongly correlate with very active members (some) who collectively hold a selfish sense of entitlement over other forum members. It is in my opinion few members against few members not many vs. many. I don't think the community has a big problem and complex moderation solutions are not needed and they will be difficult to enforce.  I also don't think encouraging widespread ignoring using forum mechanisms is a sign this is a good idea.

Very few and definitely not all active members engage in this behavior. And there will be members who occasionally make a moderation report if they think the good of the forum merits it. But in general the same few "the usual suspects" would be involved. In these cases self-moderation is called for and they should remember the threads are read by many others who deserve consideration.

So has this thread started to approach an answer?

Should there be an off-topic section? No
Should the level of moderation change? No

Should we round up the usual suspects? Yes.

Just search on "casablanca usual suspects" and you'll find a video.

m k:

--- Quote from: dunkemhigh on September 10, 2022, 12:28:10 pm ---Why do you assume a non-public report must be from a lurker?
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Don't assume what I assume.

mushroom:

--- Quote from: EEVblog on September 10, 2022, 06:02:22 am ---...it's about sharing other projects you are working on...

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Just changed vote to "Yes, good idea. Open to everyone."

CatalinaWOW:
As a native speaker of American English (the source of the film Casablanca) I feel that assigning a meaning of returning to the status quo to the phrase "the usual suspects" goes a bit far.  I interpreted this, and assume a great many others interpreted it similarly, to simply mean that there are a group of people known or suspected by many to be prone to a certain behavior.  The extra meaning extracted from the film requires the entire context of usage from the film (plot, speaker, situation).

A return to the status quo may be the right answer in this case.  Or special treatment of the "usual subjects".  Or something else.  I am not wise enough to give a definitive answer here.  Dave obviously feels somewhat similarly, hence the question posed in this thread.

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