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IMPORTANT POLL: Should there be an off-topic section?

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AVGresponding:

--- Quote from: m k on September 10, 2022, 04:38:11 pm ---
--- Quote from: pcprogrammer on September 10, 2022, 03:56:32 pm ---Define lurker for us.
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Reading but not writing.

Do you have a bias towards the word?

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I'm trying to think of the word for "writing but not reading". I'm sure it'll come to me...   ;)

pcprogrammer:
No, was just wondering if you are aware of the fact that non registered readers can't report.

Registered members are part of the community, and you stated that lurkers are not the community. But I agree that they should not easily report something they don't like, and if they do the moderator can weigh this in when making a decision.

Zeyneb:

--- Quote from: EEVblog on September 10, 2022, 10:51:57 am ---
--- Quote from: wilfred on September 10, 2022, 04:25:22 am ---General Technical Chat was General Chat before the word Technical was inserted. But still you see some very tenuous topics started with flimsy justification as technical.
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The idea was to have a suble reminder to try and keep new threads at least somewhat on-topic.

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Ok, I understand now Dave and others would prefer to keep this titled General Technical Chat. And that is also the section where social, political, economic and humorous charged posts will go.

I think it is important to start the new Off Topic Projects section in a good way. And make it very clear to members to distinguish if their post should be in Off Topic Projects or General Technical Chat. You know, if Off Topic Projects doesn't really catch on the posts will end up in General Technical Chat.

So how about this: Invite members to prepare some appealing/interesting posts for the new Off Topic Projects section, show them to Dave to determine Yes, this is what I meant for the new section. And when the new section is created launch those posts all at once.

Maybe Dave can already share the intended description text for Off Topic Projects. You know, the text below the section headers.

Also maybe Dave could recruit some more moderators, maybe to start only with the authority to move posts in the right sections.

From the point of view of a forum member, when you open a forum section you skim through the post titles and judge if your intended post will match the relevance/tone/culture of the section, if that is the case and the section has recent activity you'll get the confidence your post will be received well and get responses.

m k:

--- Quote from: pcprogrammer on September 10, 2022, 04:44:58 pm ---No, was just wondering if you are aware of the fact that non registered readers can't report.

Registered members are part of the community, and you stated that lurkers are not the community. But I agree that they should not easily report something they don't like, and if they do the moderator can weigh this in when making a decision.

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Ok.
Lurker has had a negative tone but that's a long ago, back then member and post counts were a prestige.
Now bots are probably hogging much more and ad-money is not after quality anyway.

But with community we clearly have some different nuances.
All registered ones are members, later they can come a part of a community, but not necessary.
Now and here we are also occasionally talking what it is to be a part of a community of a community.

I think you are also misunderstanding that insider moderator part.
There moderator is second, first is member and member of community of community.
Depth is completely different, there person part comes first.
Now somebody may even think that being rude is ok if you just stay somewhat on topic.

I wouldn't be a good moderator.
It's probably a cultural thing but first I'd close the back channel.
Say it out loud or be silent but stop mumbling.
I wouldn't hesitate with short penalties or thread splittings either.
What I would hesitate is deleting and locking, excluding illegals of course.
Maybe temporary, not permanent could be my motto.

pcprogrammer:
Actually the moderators here are also part of the community. They do participate in and even start threads of their own, and that can be problematic, but it seems to have worked very well despite the recent events. I don't think there is a need to change that part of the system.

But take the TEA thread as an example and ask the question if it would have had a different outcome when the moderation had been done by a participating member of the thread. Yes he/she would probably have had a better understanding about some of the posts made and maybe taken milder action, but then other members would most likely still have felt the need for more moderation. When a small group thinks they are in the right, no matter what action taken, it will always fail because they will not back down. You know, because they are right.

I too would be to opinionated for the job.

For now it is all just speculation on what the outcome here will be. Eventually it is up to Dave to decide on a new section or not. It is his castle.

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