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IMPORTANT POLL: Should there be an off-topic section?

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PlainName:
Thank you for your considered and definitely not flame-baiting response.

tggzzz:

--- Quote from: AVGresponding on September 11, 2022, 11:55:21 am ---
--- Quote from: pcprogrammer on September 11, 2022, 11:34:21 am ---And can we now stop this please and get back on what this thread is about.

Do we want a new section to post non electronics related topics in or not.

I wonder if a change of the original post with the latest view on it being for other hobbies only, and still no politics, religion and guns, can help in making a more founded decision.

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I'd change "guns" to "weaponry", otherwise you'd likely get some smartass posting about crossbows, combat knives or somesuch and saying "it's not a gun, so I can post about it".

--- End quote ---

Pens can be more devastating than swords, and thats without using them as a stiletto.

When rules become explicity codified in writing, barrack room lawyers and officious busybodies have a field day.

Brumby:

--- Quote from: tggzzz on September 11, 2022, 11:22:35 pm ---When rules become explicity codified in writing, barrack room lawyers and officious busybodies have a field day.

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So true.

This is where "the vibe" has been so successful for so long.  It is flexible enough so that things do not snap the moment a line is stepped over - but allows for retreat back behind the line.  With just a little tolerance, this approach can work well - as it has done on the EEVblog for years.

RJSV:
   Some organizations crack-down, for indiscretions, but put 'offenders' on a timed  absence...That way folks won't feel so fatal involvement, with so-called permanent bans, but have the time (or time-out) to contemplate.

AVGresponding:

--- Quote from: tggzzz on September 11, 2022, 11:22:35 pm ---
--- Quote from: AVGresponding on September 11, 2022, 11:55:21 am ---
--- Quote from: pcprogrammer on September 11, 2022, 11:34:21 am ---And can we now stop this please and get back on what this thread is about.

Do we want a new section to post non electronics related topics in or not.

I wonder if a change of the original post with the latest view on it being for other hobbies only, and still no politics, religion and guns, can help in making a more founded decision.

--- End quote ---

I'd change "guns" to "weaponry", otherwise you'd likely get some smartass posting about crossbows, combat knives or somesuch and saying "it's not a gun, so I can post about it".

--- End quote ---

Pens can be more devastating than swords, and thats without using them as a stiletto.

When rules become explicity codified in writing, barrack room lawyers and officious busybodies have a field day.

--- End quote ---

Extend that argument to its logical conclusion and we should have no codified rules at all.

If someone uses a pen to stab someone, they are by definition using it as a weapon. If someone uses a pen to write rhetoric that incites people to violence, again, it's being weaponised. If we say discussion about weaponry is not allowed, then the logical assumption is that discussing how to stab someone with a pen, or how to trigger a riot by writing inflammatory things, would be against the rules.
Equally, a discussion about how to use a pen to provide a breathing tube in an ad hoc trachaeostomy, or how to write a letter designed to calm an angry argument, would not be forbidden.

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